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03-18-2010, 09:50 PM | #1 |
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| Breeding? I want Ella to bless us w/ puppies. Right now she's a year and a half old and 9lbs (perfect to me). Possibly before the end of the year or early next year i'd like to have a liter of puppies. And yes, i do have some experience w/ the whelp process. I've assisted w/ 4 successful deliveries. So i'm not clueless. I know she needs a vet exam to make sure she's healthy to birth them. I was just wanting some breeders advice. If i get the vet's go ahead is it okay? Oh and btw, the puppies will by no means be sold. If she does have a liter i will keep one myself and give the other(s) to my yorkie bearing family. Also, i don't want my post to cause any drama. I am just questioning. I'm not even sure if this is something we'd like for Ella. =]
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03-18-2010, 10:14 PM | #2 |
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| Opinions please?
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03-18-2010, 11:26 PM | #3 |
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| Alright, I'll go first...I would probably have serious thoughts if at the age of 19, I would be able to dedicate the time & finances into the breeding. I say find a mentor and learn EVERYTHING beyond whelping before you make that decision. Also, check out ALL the Yorkies who are looking to be adopted in ALL the rescues and then tell me if you really think you need to add to this population?
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03-18-2010, 11:41 PM | #4 |
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| I think you'll get many more responses in the morning, but I can give my opinion for what it's worth. I'm not a breeder by the way. You asked if it was okay. Yes, it is in that she is yours and if this is what you want to do, it's your right and everything "should" go just fine. However, whether you plan to breed her one time or four times and whether you plan to keep the pups or sell them doesn't make a bit of difference when talking about health testing. It all applies no matter the purpose for breeding. So blood panels, bile acids testing, thyroid testing, knee and hip checks, eye checks, etc. really still should be done for both the male and female. You'll be out $100s over this. Yorkie c-section rate is higher than a lot of other breeds. Depending on where you live, that can be a couple grand if done on an emergency basis. Then if mom gets eclampsia or whatever, you'll be handfeeding around the clock. And of course there is always the chance that you will lose her. Then the question becomes, are you willing to put her through all of this? It's fine if you are as long as it's done correctly, but it's a lot on her and you to go through it. If we're talking about her best interest, then she should be spayed instead. But if you have thousands set aside, a lot of time on your hands (I hear some breeders stay home for weeks after whelp), etc. and you can keep all the pups/give them to people close to you that are going to be able to care for them so that they don't end up in shelters, then go for it. My opinion is above though. It would be better to skip it.
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03-19-2010, 01:30 AM | #5 |
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| Sounds like you have made up your mind already, so why ask? A basic vet exam is not much of any good if you are wanting to breed. I was a vet tech and just looking at your dog will really not let you know what you really need to know to breed her. Just being honest. You need to do the blood tests and screening, as mentioned above to see. You know you are breeding her above the weight exceed limit, so I guess size and standard does not matter to you. You think that is okay since you are keeping all the pups. Okay - then what will the pups you/family will be keeping be passing on in the future when you/your family breed them and their pups be passing on. See this is what many people do not realize how their actions can change the whole breed. This means then that some say our fabulous breed we love so much will not look like it does today. Yes, love your dog as she is, but remember how one simple breeding can effect our breed. You need to know for sure about her parents and grandparents, etc... What will they contribute to the pups gene pool - health wise and standard wise? Breeding is so much more than just letting your girl have pups. And size does not always full proff for not having problems as far as her whelping naturally - she could still have problems. Since you asked our opinions - I would spay her and love her and by spaying her you know that she will be healthier. Last edited by topknot; 03-19-2010 at 01:33 AM. |
03-19-2010, 02:09 AM | #6 |
Donating YT 2000 Club Member | I am not sure what your question is? You have got some great advice above. Nobody can tell you to do it and it will be alright. It would be alot cheaper to buy another puppy if that is what you want. You said your family... are they willing to help with all the cost you will have raising a litter? An emergency csection can run you 1000+ and most vet's I am finding out now if you don't have it they send you home. A vet cannot look at her before hand and tell you it will not happen. Can you take off work a week or more before she whelps and possible 6 weeks after? If something happens that mom cannot care for the pups are you prepared to feed them every few hours. This means when you get the last one done the first one is ready to eat again. These things might never happen but it is a nightmare when it does. I am just trying to give you things to think about.
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03-19-2010, 12:30 PM | #7 | |
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03-19-2010, 12:34 PM | #8 |
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| Another though i have is that I AM A RESPONSIBLE PET OWNER. There are some who aren't and just produce these animals for the point of just selling them and aren't doing it out of love. There is a line between responsible and irresponsible pet breeding.
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03-19-2010, 12:38 PM | #9 |
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| My mind is made up, i am not doing this. I can't risk loosing her. She will not be spayed though. No more discussion on this please. I've heard alot and i never should have asked for opinions on this topic. I've seen so many things here on YT that caused drama and i'm just setting myself up for it. I was only thinking about the cute little faces that she'll produce and nothing else. That's wrong of me.
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03-19-2010, 12:56 PM | #10 | |
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I'm a firm believer of teaching by example. I wanted my relatives to spay/neuter their pets and preached till I was blue but it did me no good since I didn't own a dog and never had. Now I do, he was neutered his first week home. He is trained, happy, and the best dog in the world and now they seek me for advice in dog care even though they are the ones with "experience." I in no way intended this to be a lecture it's merely food for thought.
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03-19-2010, 12:57 PM | #11 |
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| OOPS! Sorry, I just noticed you made up your mind. Don't feel bad about asking a question about breeding. It is your right to. May I ask why you wouldn't have her spayed? You don't have to answer if you don't want.
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03-19-2010, 01:31 PM | #13 |
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| I'm glad you made the wise decision to not breed your sweet baby However, since your not having her spayed just watch for pyrometria that she can get with not being spayed and if she develops this she will have to be spayed and you could still end up losing her in an emergency situtation if you do not catch it in time. So please reconsider spaying her Donna Bird Brooklynn's Yorkshire Terriers |
03-19-2010, 01:44 PM | #14 | |
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03-19-2010, 02:43 PM | #15 |
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| I am just not sure why you would not have her spayed. It is to prevent her from getting certain cancers! Yes, cancer! The big C! Female dogs have a higher rate of developing cancer if not spayed. My sister in-law did not get her dog spayed and her dog (Penny) came down with mammory cancer. I was working as a vet tech when she got it and was there and assisted with her operation. It is so hard to get all the skin around the tumors (very spidery like) and if you do not get all the cells it can come back and spread very quickly - Once the air gets to it it just seems to spread. We did our best and really tried to get it all. Well, we missed something and she was gone in 6 months. Here is a link Mammary Tumors (Cancer) in Dogs I am just not sure why you would not have her spayed. It is to prevent her form getting certain cancers! Yes, cancer! Female dogs have a higher rate of developing cancer if not spayed. My sister in-law did not get her dog spayed and she came down with mammory cancer.I was working as a vet tech when she got it and was there for her operation. It is so hard to get all the skin around the tumors and if you do not get all the cells - because you have her open up for surgery the air gets to it and spreads quickly. You hope in surgery you have gotten it all. Well, we missed some and she was gone in 6 months. Here is a link of information about mammory tumors: Mammary Tumors (Cancer) in Dogs . If you catch it really early recovery is so much better, but sometimes it happens so fast they have and they had it longer than you realize. So do her a favor and protect her and get her spayed. Spaying will make her better - not change her or her value. Best of luck with her. Last edited by topknot; 03-19-2010 at 02:47 PM. |
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