Yorkie Breeders: Have a ?

[bellasmom84]

Do you sell to people with kids? Also, would you consider a puppymill a place where they had more than 2 dogs that were pregnant/had babies all over their house and all the other dogs locked up in cages? J/w since i've seen this and personally I think it's horrible. But not sure if it's a "puppymill" and what I can do about it, if anything.

[MyTrixie143]

I do sell to families with kids but only older kids and I get to meet them for myself and see how they handle puppies. On occasion I have a tiny puppy come along and they won't go to a home with any kids, too risky.


I don't know if I would call it a puppy mill or a byb, but definitely something I would stay away from. Unfortunately it isn't illegal to keep them in cages as long as their living conditions are alright. Those poor babies. The law is so stupid when it comes to this.

[Ramrod]

Originally Posted by MyTrixie143

I do sell to families with kids but only older kids and I get to meet them for myself and see how they handle puppies. On occasion I have a tiny puppy come along and they won't go to a home with any kids, too risky.

Its the same here, and my girls are our beloved pets first and foremost, they sleep in their crate at nigh but are never locked in.

[WV~Yorkies]

Yes I sell to people with children. I like to meet the family though.. you can get a good feel of their parenting skills. If they have none then I won't sell to them. If the kids are well behaved and mind then I have no problem.

I bought my first Yorkie when my oldest was 2, my middle daughter was 6 months and my son was born after. I never had any problems with my children and my yorkies. My son is now 10 and has helped me whelp the last 2 litters. He is excited about the next one. He will stay up all night just to watch and learn. He knows how to clean them, cut cords and suction. He is like a sponge when it comes to my yorkies he wants to know everything. I tell him all the time he need to be a Vet when he grows up.

[ChantalB]

Originally Posted by MyTrixie143

I do sell to families with kids but only older kids and I get to meet them for myself and see how they handle puppies. On occasion I have a tiny puppy come along and they won't go to a home with any kids, too risky.

Same for me.

And the house with all the caged dog look like a backyard breeder to me.

[carmen in nj]

Originally Posted by ChantalB

Same for me.

And the house with all the caged dog look like a backyard breeder to me.

I agree.. Same here I MEET all my prospective parents in person and see how the kids interact with the puppy in my home and take it from there.
puppies in cages a NO NO...

[chattiesmom]

Originally Posted by WV~Yorkies

Yes I sell to people with children. I like to meet the family though.. you can get a good feel of their parenting skills. If they have none then I won't sell to them. If the kids are well behaved and mind then I have no problem.

I bought my first Yorkie when my oldest was 2, my middle daughter was 6 months and my son was born after. I never had any problems with my children and my yorkies. My son is now 10 and has helped me whelp the last 2 litters. He is excited about the next one. He will stay up all night just to watch and learn. He knows how to clean them, cut cords and suction. He is like a sponge when it comes to my yorkies he wants to know everything. I tell him all the time he need to be a Vet when he grows up.

I agree with Melissa. When children are involved, they come to the house for a visit. Melissa's son, Randy, was 7 when Jazzy went home with them -- I have NEVER been so impressed with a youngster. Not only did I find the perfect home for Jazzy, but I gained a friend in Melissa. Randy was the perfect example of what I look for in a family with young children -- he had been taught respect - both for humans and animals.

To answer the second question posed by the op -- the situation with the dogs in cages sounds like a small scale puppy mill to me. Adult dogs in cages and pups all over the house reeks of puppy mill to me.

[JeanieK]

Yes I sell to people with children. I bought yorkies when I had children.

Mine too are only in their cratres at night. the rest of the time they are roaming the house.

Having 2 pregnant at the same time is not unusual since one coming into heat will frequently bring others into heat, but I don't condone caging dogs.

[JeanieK]

Originally Posted by MyTrixie143

I do sell to families with kids but only older kids and I get to meet them for myself and see how they handle puppies. On occasion I have a tiny puppy come along and they won't go to a home with any kids, too risky.


I don't know if I would call it a puppy mill or a byb, but definitely something I would stay away from. Unfortunately it isn't illegal to keep them in cages as long as their living conditions are alright. Those poor babies. The law is so stupid when it comes to this.

the laws are very dumb when it comes to dogs. In fact they discourage you from keeping them in your home. They require they be kept separate.

In our county, if you have 6 or more dogs, they are to be kept separate from the family. however there is no adjustment for the size of the dogs. all of my dogs together do not make one large breed dog. I'm not sure if they are concerned for the health of the dogs, or the people. It makes no sense to me.

Some one can have 5 great danes in the house, but not 6 yorkies.

[smartpuppiepets]

I have to meet the family first and i do place them with children, but i need to see how the children are with the dogs and how the parents are with the kids. I grew up with them and we never had a problem. But we were thought how to behave near any animal , pet or puppy.
What you saw sounds very disturbing to me...
Is there anything in the law that defines a puppy mill or a back yard breeder as far as a number of animals in cages or anything like this? i am not sure if there is such thing in writing but if you saw cages it is not good !
Good luck in figuring out what you can do to help stop this abuse !
XOXO

[furbabymomma]

I am new to the site but figured I would respond here.
Your original question was do the breeders sell to people with children?
Yes and No would be my answer. It would depend on the children's ages first, how many children and their behavior also.
How old are your children? How many? How are they with puppies? Have they been taught how to handle or not handle a puppy? Many questions and I personally would need to see the children and how they interact with dogs and how YOU as a parent have taught the child/children to interact with animals. I would tend to be overprotective of my furbabies and refuse to sell to someone with children if I was not completely comfortable.
As for dogs being in cages that would also depend on the situation. If puppies and Momma is present, the other adult dogs may not be welcome to just roam about by Momma when her puppies are running about. Also many states require that there is a separate housing area for moms and their babies that is separate from the rest of the "pack" to protect the babies. So this "breeder" may have that set up due to state regulations.
Did the puppies appear healthy? Were they socialized and friendly when you entered? Or did they seem sickly, dirty, listless, cowering? I have lived in the midwest and have seen puppy mills in person. I looked at a litter of 4 Yorkies that looked like a cross between a daschund(spelling) and scnauzer that were so sickly and scared it was aweful. It took all I could do to leave those babies there and get down the road so that I could call the authorities. That was an obvious case but you get the meaning in the questions.
I guess I would need more information before passing judgement on someone I did not know. People are sometimes quick to judge before getting all the information. I for one would need to have more information about the child/children and the condition of the puppies that you did see.

[JeanieK]

Originally Posted by bellasmom84

Do you sell to people with kids? Also, would you consider a puppymill a place where they had more than 2 dogs that were pregnant/had babies all over their house and all the other dogs locked up in cages? J/w since i've seen this and personally I think it's horrible. But not sure if it's a "puppymill" and what I can do about it, if anything.

Were you turned down by this breeder because you had children?

What size of puppy were you interested in?

What are the ages of your children?

Do you have other dogs?

There are many things that come in to play when selling a puppy.

I am pretty sure you would know if it was a puppy mill.

Were the cages clean?
Were the cages inside the home?
Could it be that the dogs were put in cages so the owner could show you the puppies and visit with you without worrying about the other dogs?

I get very suspicious when a new member comes on here with a negative post, and then never returns to respond to the comments or answer questions.

[WV~Yorkies]

Originally Posted by chattiesmom

I agree with Melissa. When children are involved, they come to the house for a visit. Melissa's son, Randy, was 7 when Jazzy went home with them -- I have NEVER been so impressed with a youngster. Not only did I find the perfect home for Jazzy, but I gained a friend in Melissa. Randy was the perfect example of what I look for in a family with young children -- he had been taught respect - both for humans and animals.

To answer the second question posed by the op -- the situation with the dogs in cages sounds like a small scale puppy mill to me. Adult dogs in cages and pups all over the house reeks of puppy mill to me.

Thank you Cindy.. that means alot to me.

[furbabymomma]

I am new so I do not know how to do the fancy copy thing but I wanted to say I agree with Jeaniek...there is not enough info here.
Just because a breeder turns people down who have children and uses kennels for the adults when showing puppies to prospective owners does not make them "puppy mills" or "BYB" as was accused here.
So to the original poster....could you answer JeanieK's and my questions first?

[Nikis2]

I have some of the most wonderful memories of selling puppies to some children. I had a little boy that has cancer and the Make a Wish Foundation asked him if he would like to go on a trip blah blah blah. He said he wanted a yorkie puppy they tried for months to change his mind but to no avail so they called me and I brought that child a puppy. That was one of the most heart felt moment of my life. I have some special needs children that are doing so much better with their handicaps since getting one of my babies. Now on the other hand someone that is keeping several dogs in cages the whole day long and them not getting the proper exercise is another. But, we have no idea how many dogs were in this house, if they are all well fed and cared for. I think that is the difference when I think puppy mill is a lot of helpless animals living in dirty cage being fed low quality food and not loved handled and walked. When someone is only breeding to make money and not for the love of the animal. So if you think there is something going on that shouldn't be I would check with the laws of your state and report them. They will go out and check to make sure all the dogs are up to date on their vaccines and are being cared for properly. I would much rather see someone raise a red flag than someone that sees something that isn't right with an animal and ignores it