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02-07-2010, 11:04 AM | #1 |
Yorkie Yakker Join Date: Jan 2010 Location: New Bedford Massachusetts
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| plz help... new to breeding Hey everyone my reason for posting is I am GOING to breed my little Lola when shes probably in her 4th or 5th heat so that should be when she is around 2 or 2 and 1/2. She is 8months now and in Heat actually at the moment so i have plenty of time to research and find a good mentor in the Boston mass area ( i live about an hour south of there). Now I know some people are going to attack me and say to just think about getting her fixed and not breeding her and am I prepared to lose her.....but i respectfully ask to plz refrain from this as to I have made up my mind on the situation and I am going to breed her and this is something that appeals to me as a hobby. I would love to eventually breed some of the best of the best Yorkies coming out of Massachusetts. But that's more of a dream right now lol. So yea any helpful info you can give me on to whats some good sites to do my research and stuff like that. Mostly I just want Some advice on to what to learn and what should be researched and stuff. Also is their any licenses or anything i should look into getting or anything like that, Thanks in advance everyone |
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02-07-2010, 11:20 AM | #2 |
Donating YT 10K Club Member | If you want to produce the best puppies in Massachusetts I highly recommend having your dog evaluated and championed. Not all dogs are breed worthy Some recommended reading are books from Myra Savant Harris. Myra Savant Harris Also Pat Hastings. Pat and Bob Hasting, Dogfolf Enterprises, Inc. These two ladies also offer seminars Debbie Jensen has good information also. Dog Breeding and Canine Reproduction by Debbie Jensen. Dog Breeding and Whelping guide for dog breeders.
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02-07-2010, 11:27 AM | #3 |
Donating YT 2000 Club Member Join Date: Jun 2005 Location: GA
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| If you want to be the best of the best you better start at the beginning: *I knew when I wanted to start back breeding//showing I better have the best to start with. I researched a lot of yorkies/breeders before I decided to get my first. Of course they were championed sired and some both - championed sired and damed. I checked pedigrees, the parents and grandparents qulaities, as well as the ones I got qualities. I had to know the standard well to be able to judge the qualities. Vets cannot judge a yorkie based on the standard since they do not know each dog's standard well, they can evaluate only the health after testing. * I also showed my dogs to make sure that experts were evaluating my dogs before I breed them. **Testing - you have to make sure that they are very healthy - this covers so much, eyes, heart, petellas, liver, etc... * Be sure your girl has the right qualities: silky coat - not a cotton/wolly coat, good color (dark steel blue and nice gold), nice ears (not too long and not rounded tips), nice straight topline - like she could carry a teacup on the back. You do not want an arched back. There is more, but you need to do your research to learn the standard. *I prefer AKC since you can attend shows and have your dog evaluated by experts. I also like how they do inspections - I think the only one that does. Sounds like a lot, but so important to do it right. There is even more than what I mentioned.. you just have to do your research and go to some shows so you know what a nice qulaity yorkie should look like. Find a good mentor in your area that is willing to teach you - be sure they are an expert and can teach you well. This all needs to be checked out throughly and in place before you even think about breeding. Last edited by topknot; 02-07-2010 at 11:30 AM. |
02-07-2010, 11:44 AM | #4 |
Yorkie Yakker Join Date: Jan 2010 Location: New Bedford Massachusetts
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| Well I know that she was not champion sired but she does have champion bloodlines and the breeder I bought her from gave me an ACA registration form so I already registered her there but I did want to register with the AKC since in my opinion its 200% better then ACA I mean just compare the websites and you can tell. I know I have a lot of work ahead of me that's why Im researching over a year in advance. Any suggestions on how to go about finding a mentor ?? |
02-07-2010, 12:01 PM | #5 |
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| AKC will not cross register a dog from other registries. It must be from AKC registered dogs (or an AKC recognized registry) to get an AKC registration. ACA is not one of those registries. You won't reach your stated goals unless you have AKC registrable dogs.
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02-07-2010, 12:06 PM | #6 |
Donating YT 10K Club Member | Unless her parents were AKC registered you will not be able to register her with AKC. Nor will she be eligible to participate in AKC confirmation events. As topknot advised...the research for breeding starts before you get the dog.
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02-07-2010, 12:38 PM | #7 |
Donating YT 2000 Club Member Join Date: Jun 2005 Location: GA
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| They are right. Since your girl is ACA - you cannot register her with AKC, unless the parents are AKC and the breeder would have to register the litter with AKC. But it sounds like this is not the case - so no AKC registration is available for your girl. You bought before you did your research and now you want to breed. My best advice is to have her spayed, since she is not AKC and cannot be shown, thus not evaluated. And her qualities need to be the best to be breed. You say she has champions in her pedigree - they must be either the parents of her or grandparents to do any good. Anything past the 3rd generation is not much of anything. Since she is ACA - I do not think champions are up close in her pedigree. I am so sorry to tell you this, but you need to know and you asked. If you want to be the best - you really need to start over again. Do your research and learn all about the standard, go to some shows, and get a good mentor. Then start looking for your dog. If you are going to breed you need to do things right to protect the breed. The dog world is a small world and your reputation is everything in breeding. At least you know now what you would like to do - just be sure to go about it the right way. Last edited by topknot; 02-07-2010 at 12:40 PM. |
02-07-2010, 12:45 PM | #8 |
Donating YT 12K Club Member Join Date: Jan 2006 Location: Council Bluffs Iowa
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| If you want to get into showing and "breeding the best", I suggest that you find a show breeder to mentor you, and then buy your dog from them. Go to some dog shows in your area and meet the breeders and tell them you are interested in showing. I'm sure someone will be happy to help you to get started. however if you are already planning to breed a dog that is not AKC, or show quality, chances are they will not help you, or sell to you. So plan ahead. |
02-07-2010, 12:52 PM | #9 |
Donating YT 500 Club Member | I wish others would realize just how important reputation is to their acceptance by respected breeders and success in the yorkie breeding world. Doing the wrong thing may take years to overcome, some will never forget.
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02-07-2010, 12:53 PM | #10 |
Donating YT 500 Club Member Join Date: Feb 2009 Location: Weymouth, Ma
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| Being from Massachusetts I am just curious where you got your dog? And if you are serious , why not go to NYC next weekend since we are within driving distance!! Perhaps you could meet your mentor there. I believe most would perfer AKC registration.. we do have some very good breeders here in Massachusetts, you can find them on YTCA..
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02-07-2010, 01:15 PM | #11 | |
Mardelin Yorkshire Terriers Donating Member Join Date: Aug 2006 Location: California
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Now if you want to be the best, you have to start with the best. Do your homework, research everything you can; attend canine genetics classes., the standard, breeding, whelping, raising pups, structure.....You have much to learn. Oh! if you plan to breed yorkies, first lesson, you never breed prior to 18 months of age or 2nd cycle. Your girl will not have gone through 4 or 5 cycles by then, just 2. Yorkies on the average don't come into their first cycle until 10 to 14 months of age. Start with the best to produce the best. Don't be in a hurry, there are no short cuts, if you want a short cut got to a Barber. If a breeder sells you a dog on open registration, without knowing you and teaching your, said breeder is only interested in obtaining your money and cares nothing about their dogs. So, I suggest that if you've found such a breeder run the other way as fast as you can. Good Luck .
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02-07-2010, 02:32 PM | #12 | |
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02-07-2010, 03:28 PM | #13 |
Yorkie Yakker Join Date: Jan 2010 Location: New Bedford Massachusetts
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02-07-2010, 03:42 PM | #14 |
Yorkie Yakker Join Date: Jan 2010 Location: New Bedford Massachusetts
Posts: 39
| well I bought her from a breeder in new york so yea that's where i got her What's included: Registered/registerable (AKC, NKC, etc.), Current vaccinations, Veterinarian examination, Health certificate, Health guarantee, Pedigree That was listed right next to her picture and its listen underneath the litter that they have now. |
02-07-2010, 03:49 PM | #15 | |
Donating YT 2000 Club Member Join Date: Jun 2005 Location: GA
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Deffiently worth the drive. From what I read that was included - I did not see testing done something that should be done. What is this persons web site or link? | |
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