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raymondm · 11-03-2009, 09:23 AM

We have our little boy and for the last few weeks a breeder that apparently works in the same building that i do, has been asking me to let our boy mate with his female.

He's only 10 months and just about 6 and a half pounds, but we've never done this before and i just don't know if we should. I cazn't find any info only about the breeder.

Zeus08 · 11-03-2009, 09:29 AM

I had several people proposition Zeus as a stud and I always said No. I would find out more info on this breeder. JMO..

Amazing Yorkies · 11-03-2009, 10:38 AM

I appreciate your concern!
Besides the typical behavior change in his personality after breeding that you may not appreciate.. all breeding Yorkies should be health tested for genetic health problems, as well as knees and hips checked. You wouldn't want to pass on an unhealthy trait to puppies.
Study the YTCA Standard so that you know that the Sire and Dam
at the very least, have the appearance of what a Yorkie was meant to look like. So many people come on here wondering if their Dog is even a Yorkie. By breeding to Standard, there is a much better chance of a Yorkie actually looking like a Yorkie.
You should also know the background of both Sire and Dam to make sure that you are not doubling up on faults or traits in a line that could be passed on to the puppies.
Breeding is so much more than putting two Yorkies together for cute puppies. With breeding comes a responsibility to produce the very best, healthiest puppies that you are capable of... even for pets.
You might find out from the breeder what her intentions are, and that she is doing the right thing for the breed and her future puppies. If she isn't, she'll probably breed anyway.. but you will not have contributed to the problem. IMO

cj125 · 11-03-2009, 10:59 AM

Great post Deb!

May I add that if your boy is only 10 months old and is already 6 1/2 pounds he will more than likely be way out of standard. (too heavy) I don't know what the age of a male should be for studding but there are guidelines for the female.

Mardelin · 11-03-2009, 11:13 AM

Besides the obvious things of health testing (remember anything that goes wrong genetically is always blamed on the stud), and making sure that your dog and the female are good representations of the breed. There are your responsibilities of being the stud owner:

Are you prepared to assist in the whelping?

Do you have a stud contract? A contract should be in writing and iron clad.

How much to charge for a stud fee?

Are you aware that you will be conducting the breeding and keeping the female in your home until the breeding is done.

Are you familiar with how to conduct a breeding?

Are you prepared to take any pups that aren't sold and possibly take back any pups that have been placed but, returned and the owner of the female can't.

BamaFan121s · 11-03-2009, 02:08 PM

I would say no, you shouldn't.

Is this your website?
Westchester County NY Dog Pet Store Rescued Puppies For Sale

Sookie · 11-04-2009, 07:35 AM

What about brucellosis? Shouldn't she make sure the female doesn't have that?

Mardelin · 11-04-2009, 07:39 AM

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Originally Posted by Sookie

What about brucellosis? Shouldn't she make sure the female doesn't have that?

If she has all the proper pre-breeding tests done, a vaginal culture will reveal this. Brucellosis is very rare, and most easily contracted if one lives around cattle. However, if this is a maiden bitch....more than likely she will not test positive.

Amazing Yorkies · 11-04-2009, 10:18 AM

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Originally Posted by Sookie

What about brucellosis? Shouldn't she make sure the female doesn't have that?

My Vet called me last Spring to let me know to be extra careful about Brucelosis tests. She had 5 cases of Brucelosis come to her. I've always required an up to date test if I stud out, and I will continue to require testing. I also test if I purchase an adult, it could destroy a breeding program! Thanks for bringing that up!

Mardelin · 11-04-2009, 10:49 AM

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Originally Posted by Amazing Yorkies

My Vet called me last Spring to let me know to be extra careful about Brucelosis tests. She had 5 cases of Brucelosis come to her. I've always required an up to date test if I stud out, and I will continue to require testing. I also test if I purchase an adult, it could destroy a breeding program! Thanks for bringing that up!

It's very dependent on where you live......I live in the city and even when in Texas my dogs were in a controlled environment.....not saying one shouldn't, they should if in doubt and you are using your studs for public use.

But, since my studs aren't for public use!!!!! What I do worry about is my girls harboring an infection that can be detrimental to the litter. So, a vaginal culture is always done as soon as she comes into heat.

Ringo1 · 11-04-2009, 10:52 AM

I hadn't had my little girl home for a week before my neighbor was suggesting we breed our two yorkies. Her yorkie is 6 years old and really doesn't even look like any yorkie I've ever seen. She said I could make up the cost of my dog.

There is NO WAY I would ever put myself or my precious pup through all that and no amount of money that's worth it to me. Neither one of us would know what we were doing and plus, I signed a spay agreement. So I politely said that I had signed a spay agreement and would not be able to do this. I'm glad I had an easy out because it's ridiculous how people just think well - we'll breed these two dogs and make some money. No way. I'm pretty sure it just is not that easy.

I've seen the miracle of birth once and that's enough for me!

Just say no!

Mardelin · 11-04-2009, 10:54 AM

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Originally Posted by Ringo1

I hadn't had my little girl home for a week before my neighbor was suggesting we breed our two yorkies. Her yorkie is 6 years old and really doesn't even look like any yorkie I've ever seen. She said I could make up the cost of my dog.

There is NO WAY I would ever put myself or my precious pup through all that and no amount of money that's worth it to me. Neither one of us would know what we were doing and plus, I signed a spay agreement. So I politely said that I had signed a spay agreement and would not be able to do this. I'm glad I had an easy out because it's ridiculous how people just think well - we'll breed these two dogs and make some money. No way. I'm pretty sure it just is not that easy.

I've seen the miracle of birth once and that's enough for me!

Just say no!

I have an easy out too.....anyone asks for my studs, I say you have to clear it with my breeder, since she controlls that part of them.....real easy.

TyraandMrJ · 11-05-2009, 07:32 AM

You had an add here on YT about silky/yorkie pups? in your history files. ???

BamaFan121s · 11-05-2009, 09:53 AM

It appears that this person is a broker? Owner of a business called "Urban Tails" that specializes in medium and extremely small breeds and designer dogs..."hand selected" from breeders and then resold...a business staffed mainly by 'volunteer teen workers.'

Mardelin · 11-05-2009, 10:05 AM

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Originally Posted by BamaFan121s

It appears that this person is a broker? Owner of a business called "Urban Tails" that specializes in medium and extremely small breeds and designer dogs..."hand selected" from breeders and then resold...a business staffed mainly by 'volunteer teen workers.'

OK! I'm lost.

11-03-2009, 09:23 AM	#1
raymondm YorkieTalk Newbie! Join Date: Jul 2007 Location: brooklyn Posts: 9	Should i say ok? We have our little boy and for the last few weeks a breeder that apparently works in the same building that i do, has been asking me to let our boy mate with his female. He's only 10 months and just about 6 and a half pounds, but we've never done this before and i just don't know if we should. I cazn't find any info only about the breeder.

11-03-2009, 10:38 AM	#3
Amazing Yorkies YT Featured Breeder Donating Yorkie Yakker Join Date: Oct 2005 Location: Missouri Posts: 798	I appreciate your concern! Besides the typical behavior change in his personality after breeding that you may not appreciate.. all breeding Yorkies should be health tested for genetic health problems, as well as knees and hips checked. You wouldn't want to pass on an unhealthy trait to puppies. Study the YTCA Standard so that you know that the Sire and Dam at the very least, have the appearance of what a Yorkie was meant to look like. So many people come on here wondering if their Dog is even a Yorkie. By breeding to Standard, there is a much better chance of a Yorkie actually looking like a Yorkie. You should also know the background of both Sire and Dam to make sure that you are not doubling up on faults or traits in a line that could be passed on to the puppies. Breeding is so much more than putting two Yorkies together for cute puppies. With breeding comes a responsibility to produce the very best, healthiest puppies that you are capable of... even for pets. You might find out from the breeder what her intentions are, and that she is doing the right thing for the breed and her future puppies. If she isn't, she'll probably breed anyway.. but you will not have contributed to the problem. IMO __________________ Deb Sillers Deb@amazingyorkies.com www.Amazingyorkies.com

11-03-2009, 10:59 AM	#4
cj125 Mia and Max's Mom Donating Member Join Date: May 2006 Location: NV Posts: 2,956	Great post Deb! May I add that if your boy is only 10 months old and is already 6 1/2 pounds he will more than likely be way out of standard. (too heavy) I don't know what the age of a male should be for studding but there are guidelines for the female. __________________ *Until there's justice for Caylee*

11-03-2009, 11:13 AM	#5
Mardelin YT 3000 Club Member Join Date: Aug 2006 Location: California Posts: 6,770	Besides the obvious things of health testing (remember anything that goes wrong genetically is always blamed on the stud), and making sure that your dog and the female are good representations of the breed. There are your responsibilities of being the stud owner: Are you prepared to assist in the whelping? Do you have a stud contract? A contract should be in writing and iron clad. How much to charge for a stud fee? Are you aware that you will be conducting the breeding and keeping the female in your home until the breeding is done. Are you familiar with how to conduct a breeding? Are you prepared to take any pups that aren't sold and possibly take back any pups that have been placed but, returned and the owner of the female can't. __________________ Mardelin *Yorkshire* *Terriers*

11-03-2009, 02:08 PM	#6
BamaFan121s YT 3000 Club Member Join Date: Oct 2005 Location: Alabama Posts: 9,246	I would say no, you shouldn't. Is this your website? Westchester County NY Dog Pet Store Rescued Puppies For Sale __________________ ...........Misty........... Trixie * Lexi * Chipsie

11-03-2009, 09:29 AM	#2
Zeus08 YT Addict Join Date: Jan 2009 Location: Sahuarita, Arizona Posts: 349	I had several people proposition Zeus as a stud and I always said No. I would find out more info on this breeder. JMO..

11-04-2009, 07:35 AM	#7
Sookie My Four Sweet Babies Donating Member Join Date: Jun 2007 Location: South Jersey near Philadelphia Posts: 4,356 Blog Entries: 2	What about brucellosis? Shouldn't she make sure the female doesn't have that? __________________ RIP Sweet Petunia *I Kalina, Matty Lu, Sebastian and Gidget*

11-04-2009, 10:52 AM	#11
Ringo1 Yorkie Yakker Join Date: Sep 2009 Location: WV, USA Posts: 26	I hadn't had my little girl home for a week before my neighbor was suggesting we breed our two yorkies. Her yorkie is 6 years old and really doesn't even look like any yorkie I've ever seen. She said I could make up the cost of my dog. There is NO WAY I would ever put myself or my precious pup through all that and no amount of money that's worth it to me. Neither one of us would know what we were doing and plus, I signed a spay agreement. So I politely said that I had signed a spay agreement and would not be able to do this. I'm glad I had an easy out because it's ridiculous how people just think well - we'll breed these two dogs and make some money. No way. I'm pretty sure it just is not that easy. I've seen the miracle of birth once and that's enough for me! Just say no!

11-05-2009, 07:32 AM	#13
TyraandMrJ YT Addict Join Date: Jan 2007 Location: WV Posts: 438	Aren't you all ready abreeder? You had an add here on YT about silky/yorkie pups? in your history files. ??? __________________ Ty and Ming Yorkie-Poo Safe and Warm in my Momma's arms.

11-05-2009, 09:53 AM	#14
BamaFan121s YT 3000 Club Member Join Date: Oct 2005 Location: Alabama Posts: 9,246	It appears that this person is a broker? Owner of a business called "Urban Tails" that specializes in medium and extremely small breeds and designer dogs..."hand selected" from breeders and then resold...a business staffed mainly by 'volunteer teen workers.' __________________ ...........Misty........... Trixie * Lexi * Chipsie Last edited by BamaFan121s; 11-05-2009 at 09:54 AM.