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08-25-2009, 04:24 PM | #1 |
Yorkie Yakker Join Date: Jun 2009 Location: Georgetown, SC, USA
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| Selecting a Breeder Ok so I need some help from some breeders please. My yorkie poo had puppies and I plan to keep one (I breed her back yorkie). The Mom (CKC) is 9.5 lbs and the Dad (AKC) is 2.5 lbs. I want to keep one of the females for future breeding. now I am torn I have attached myself to each of the puppies in different ways and lthis is a very hard decision. I am going to show pics of them seperately and give a brief description and I would like some feed back if possible. My purpose in breeding is of course to better the line (I know they will never be full yorkie) and this is why I am asking for input. I have several people interested and wanted to be able to let them begin to bond with their puppy so I feel like I should make my choice. Puppy A: Is black with dark tan (almost red) she weighs 2 lbs 12 oz the second pic of her is not the best lighting but I wanted to show the wavy hair PUPPY A IS 1ST 2 PICS Puppy B: Is the runt and has a beautiful baby doll face she is 2 lbs 5 oz Oh I guess I should mention they are 6 1/2 weeks old. |
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08-25-2009, 04:28 PM | #2 |
Yorkie Yakker Join Date: Jun 2009 Location: Georgetown, SC, USA
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| PUPPY C: is so adorable she just has a different look than the others. Her back paws are white (Daddy is a Parti Carrier) Last edited by Emma Lee; 08-25-2009 at 04:30 PM. |
08-25-2009, 04:39 PM | #3 |
Yorkie Yakker Join Date: Jun 2009 Location: Georgetown, SC, USA
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| sorry pics didn't show up the first time |
08-25-2009, 04:59 PM | #4 |
IheartYorkies Donating Member Join Date: Oct 2007 Location: SGV, CA
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| Hi, cute pups by the way. I don't understand your question. Selecting a breeder, are you asking which would make a good potential breeder?
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08-25-2009, 05:02 PM | #5 |
IheartYorkies Donating Member Join Date: Oct 2007 Location: SGV, CA
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| Oh nevermind, you said you want one for future breeding. Can I ask why you are continuing breeding this line? They're not purebred, so you're not bettering the breed and second do you know both lines of the parents? Sorry, I'm not trying to bash you or start anything. Just curious as to why you want to breed one of the pups. If I can go back and check, was this litter a planned breeding or accidental?
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08-25-2009, 05:15 PM | #6 |
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| Only since you asked I will give an honest opinion. They are cute pups but NONE of them should be bred. They are mixed puppies, look like mixed puppies, are large for their age, are not good examples of the standard, and I am not at all understanding why you would say your "purpose in breeding is of course to better the line." I do not see that at all. If you want to better a line, you need to start with purebred dogs with thoroughly researched histories, good health history on both sides, both AKC, both good representatives of the standard, not over 7 pounds, then make sure to have the vet test them for genetic problems and physical features, then have them evaluated by a couple of well-experienced breeders who also show or have shown their Yorkies. All this should be after you have spent a couple of years researching, studying, and hopefully finding a breeder willing to mentor you. Do yourself and the breed a favor, spay your Yorkiepoo and do not keep any of the pups with making them a "breeder" in mind. I say this not to be harsh, but to be honest about what breeding should be about. Too many see their own cute puppy and think it is breeding quality when they are not at all.
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08-25-2009, 05:24 PM | #7 |
Phantom Queen Morrigan Donating Member | what did you plan on breeding your future yorkiepoo breeder to? these puppies are what? 75%yorkie and 25% poo, or are there more dilutions in the lines? what "line" are you trying to better? i don't understand
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08-25-2009, 05:31 PM | #8 |
Yorkie Yakker Join Date: Jun 2009 Location: Georgetown, SC, USA
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| This was a planned pregnancy. I don't necessarily want to better the breed, but I want to better the line (if that makes any sense). I might catch some flack on this but I am new to breeding and this is something that I really wanted to do. Eventually I want to purchase a purebred yorkie (for a pet) but at this time I cannot. I am not trying to become a byb and make an astronomical amount on these puppies. all of my puppies are being sold to people with a disability and I am offering them at a 3rd of the cost of the going rate in my area ($250 basically recovering my cost). I guess I can sum it up by saying this is a learning experience and a chance to provide a child or adult with a disability the puppy they always wanted at a lower cost . To be honest when Emma had her litter I wanted a puppy. I always dreamed of owning a yorkie but could not afford it (I am disabled and raising 2 boys) The first person to contact me about purchasing a pup was a 9 year old girl who was in a coma from meningitis, she suffers from panic attacks and numerous other problems. She comes to see the puppies at least twice a week and wow just to know that I can make her dream come true is very humbling. So I decided that this was the path I was going to take. |
08-25-2009, 05:35 PM | #9 |
Yorkie Yakker Join Date: Jun 2009 Location: Georgetown, SC, USA
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| Yes the puppies are 75% yorkie and 25% poo, there are no other dilutions in the lines and if I am to breed them it would be to a yorkie. |
08-25-2009, 06:55 PM | #10 |
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| You are breeding mixed breed puppies. 75%, 25%, 50, 10......makes no difference! Spay and neuter!
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08-25-2009, 07:34 PM | #11 | |
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You are basically saying upfront that you want a purebred but cannot afford it right now, so you are breeding mixed breed dogs that look close to yorkies. Then you are planning on keeping one of the mixed puppies to breed too. Are you going to make a continued business of selling mixed breed dogs? What about the ones you are selling to the disabled people? Are they going to breed them? Then their puppies get bred, and on and on and look how many mixed breed dogs you could quickly be responsible for all because you cannot afford a purebred Yorkie? Many of those will probably wind up sending in pictures and getting papers at the off-the-wall registries like CKC (continental kennel club) and then they will sell to some unsuspecting person as a purebred and that person will wonder why her puppy grows up not looking like a Yorkie. Worse, she breeds it and the puppies look like the poo in yorkiepoo instead of the yorkie she thought she had! For not trying to be a byb, you have done a good job of it anyway. Being a byb does not hinge on how much you sell your puppies for, it hinges on your practices. I know there are some areas where this sort of thing goes on more than others. It does not make it right. If you really want to breed, you need to research and do it right. Breeding yorkies is a huge responsibility and it should not be taken lightly. Please spay and neuter! Keep the puppies with their mother until at least 12 weeks old, or better yet, keep them until you can safely spay and neuter them before selling so others do not breed them. The only way to stop this sort of thing, is to speak up against it. I am sorry you got into this situation thinking it was okay. Please reconsider what you have started. I am sort of looking around & over my shoulder here, thinking maybe this is a "Candid Camera" situation. Not too many people come to a place like YT, admit what you have been doing and then ask for advice on keeping one of the pups to continue the bad breeding practices. I keep expecting to hear a warning beep along with, "This is a test, just a test, should this have been an actual breeding, you would have been instructed to ........"
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08-25-2009, 07:55 PM | #12 |
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| OYVEY DOS MIO! I can't believe someone wants to breed to better mixed lines........how in the world can you do that? Someone with disabilities should go to the shelter and rescue one because they need a loving home and I don't think mixed breed yorkies are the way to go in breeding...you risk of running into health issues selling to someone with disabilites of the possibilites having health issues in the pet you are selling and what if the dog gets liver shunt, LP ect... do you really think they can afford the vet bills and the hurt and pain of possibly losing their beloved pet because of unethical breeding practices...I would truly rethink what you are doing...mixing breeds causes health issues from both breeds and enhancing that risk...why would you want to put someone with disablities in that position again OYVEY DOS MIO!! Donna Bird Last edited by Brooklynn; 08-25-2009 at 07:56 PM. |
08-25-2009, 08:54 PM | #13 |
I ♥ Joey & Ralphie! Donating Member | You can find mix breeds in the pound for under well under $100.00, adopting one of these dogs will save their life. Rescues also have lots of mixed and purebreds, and prices are very reasonable, the dogs often have been neutered and trained as well. The recession has affected the price of dogs, yet vet prices are still very costly, and if you can't afford unexpected health care for your litter it might be best to wait until you have some money saved. Experienced breeders, understand you can not know if a dog is worth breeding until close to a year, and some will hold back a prospect to see if it has potential.
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08-25-2009, 09:00 PM | #14 | |
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08-26-2009, 05:25 AM | #15 |
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| As far as people attacking you, what did you expect coming on here for advice about "bettering the breed" of a mixed dog. I agree with others. None of them should be bred. The majority of us on here do not own nor breed so-called "designer dogs" or in other words, mixed breeds |
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