Stud service question

[WV~Yorkies]

I know alot of you don't do it but I am wondering how it works when you do. Do you take payment at the time of breeding or wait until the pups are born?

I have contract that requires payment when I take the bitch. I offer a return service if it does not work. Am I being reasonable?

I think if my stud does his job(he is proven) and I keep the female for several days I have earned the pay. Am I wrong?

Any thoughts?

[Mardelin]

Originally Posted by WV~Yorkies

I know alot of you don't do it but I am wondering how it works when you do. Do you take payment at the time of breeding or wait until the pups are born?

I have contract that requires payment when I take the bitch. I offer a return service if it does not work. Am I being reasonable?

I think if my stud does his job(he is proven) and I keep the female for several days I have earned the pay. Am I wrong?

Any thoughts?

Payment is due when the bitch is picked up. That is unless you're taking pick of the litter.

A return breeding should be in the contract if a live litter is not produced.

However, additional responsibilities are required of a stud owner: 1. Assistance in whelping should the owner of the bitch requires it. 2. If for some reason a puppy requires rehoming and the bitch's owner cannot take the pup back, it is the responsibility of the stud owner to step in.

[julietimothy]

I would get payment 1st. And alot of people do the pick of litter but after what happen to a friend of my I am not sure I would do that. She stud out her yorkie, let the lady take him to her house, (becuase her little girl does not like other girl dog in her house) any way this ladies friend called her and said she thought her yorkie was in heat and could she take him to her house and use him. She let her, will 60 some days later the 1st lady called to tell her they had 3 puppies but said the her other friends did not take. well.....I was talk to the husband of the 1st lady that she breed to and come to find out the friends dog did take and she only had one puppy so she lied and keep it for herself!!! I would have had to take a drive to the lady's house and she would have had to face me, but my friend let it go.

So what do you do when there is only one puppy??

[WV~Yorkies]

I always offer for them to back up and pay the stud fee if they do not want to give me the only pup.

I don't really like to do pick of the litter. The last one i did ruined it for me. I didn't get the pick of the litter she sold it before I even picked mine. Then it was like pulling teeth getting the puppy. I had to go to her house and praticaly take it. I really never thought that would happen. I talked with the lady through out the pregnacy and was even on the phone at birth. Went to see the pups several times.

[Mardelin]

Originally Posted by julietimothy

I would get payment 1st. And alot of people do the pick of litter but after what happen to a friend of my I am not sure I would do that. She stud out her yorkie, let the lady take him to her house, (becuase her little girl does not like other girl dog in her house) any way this ladies friend called her and said she thought her yorkie was in heat and could she take him to her house and use him. She let her, will 60 some days later the 1st lady called to tell her they had 3 puppies but said the her other friends did not take. well.....I was talk to the husband of the 1st lady that she breed to and come to find out the friends dog did take and she only had one puppy so she lied and keep it for herself!!! I would have had to take a drive to the lady's house and she would have had to face me, but my friend let it go.

So what do you do when there is only one puppy??

First of all the bitch always comes to the home of the stud. I would never let my boys out of my sight. My studs are championed so, I'm extra cautious.

If there is only one puppy, and the contract says pic of the litter your only option is to give the pup to the stud owner or pay the stud fee. That is if is agreeable to both parties.

My dogs aren't for public stud, unless I know the owners of a bitch on a personal level, usually only with fellow exhibitors that are well known to me , approved bitches (pedigree) and have been cleared through my mentor.

I have used my mentors studs and the breeding only producing one female, which is usually what my mentor wants. She usually forgoes her pic and tells me she'll wait until the next litter that will produce more than one female. That is why it is only best to do business with those you know on a personal level.

[julietimothy]

Originally Posted by Mardelin

First of all the bitch always comes to the home of the stud. I would never let my boys out of my sight. My studs are championed so, I'm extra cautious.

If there is only one puppy, and the contract says pic of the litter your only option is to give the pup to the stud owner or pay the stud fee. That is if is agreeable to both parties.

My dogs aren't for public stud, unless I know the owners of a bitch on a personal level, usually only with fellow exhibitors that are well known to me , approved bitches (pedigree) and have been cleared through my mentor.

I have used my mentors studs and the breeding only producing one female, which is usually what my mentor wants. She usually forgoes her pic and tells me she'll wait until the next litter that will produce more than one female. That is why it is only best to do business with those you know on a personal level.

You are so right, I tried my best to tell her not to let me go anywhere. But at the time she has 3 dogs, had her mom living with her after knee sugery with her teenage 1/2 sister and her moms 2 dogs, her on 2 kids and husband. Her house was full!!!!!

Oh, she did not even my the females she breed him to have any testing done. You try to tell people but..... what ever. At one time she was calling to check on him and no one would call her back and she did not know where the lady lived.

[Mardelin]

Originally Posted by julietimothy

You are so right, I tried my best to tell her not to let me go anywhere. But at the time she has 3 dogs, had her mom living with her after knee sugery with her teenage 1/2 sister and her moms 2 dogs, her on 2 kids and husband. Her house was full!!!!!

Oh, she did not even my the females she breed him to have any testing done. You try to tell people but..... what ever. At one time she was calling to check on him and no one would call her back and she did not know where the lady lived.

We're a bit off in left field, but maybe people reading this will learn


Then my opinion and it is a bit harsh, this friend of yours has no concern for her dogs.....and she got a bit of what she deserved. There is a lot of responsibility that goes with owning dogs, especially if you breed and/or allow your dogs to be used for public stud. I guess she was unconcerned about her stud's contracting a disease.

[julietimothy]

Originally Posted by Mardelin

We're a bit off in left field, but maybe people reading this will learn


Then my opinion and it is a bit harsh, this friend of yours has no concern for her dogs.....and she got a bit of what she deserved. There is a lot of responsibility that goes with owning dogs, especially if you breed and/or allow your dogs to be used for public stud. I guess she was unconcerned about her stud's contracting a disease.

you are right, I thought the same thing. Just because you are good friends with someone it does not mean you think a like and always see eye to eye. I try to tell her about disease and what could happen, but I could not make her understand. You are right about the getting off of the 1st post, but it is what people need to know can happen.

[danyellm]

In figuring out a stud fee,does it equal the cost of 1 puppy or do you charge more or less?

[Mardelin]

Originally Posted by danyellm

In figuring out a stud fee,does it equal the cost of 1 puppy or do you charge more or less?

Usually equal the cost of a pup. However, if the stud used is a Champion and has produced Champions....the stud fee could be considerably more.

[Sugar's Mom]

Originally Posted by danyellm

In figuring out a stud fee,does it equal the cost of 1 puppy or do you charge more or less?

When I first started inquiring about a stud years ago on here, people told me that if a breeder tries to get the price of a pup for a stud fee, run like you know what. back then puppies were selling as pets for 1,500. But it sounds reasonable to me now.

[Mardelin]

Originally Posted by Sugar's Mom

When I first started inquiring about a stud years ago on here, people told me that if a breeder tries to get the price of a pup for a stud fee, run like you know what. back then puppies were selling as pets for 1,500. But it sounds reasonable to me now.

If you think about it, it is reasonable, coming from a top breeder with excellent lines. Especially, if you produce a healthy litter of 5 pups and especially if one is a female that meets the standard, you're going to Champion her and keep her in your breeding program.

[julietimothy]

the stud fee is lower most of the time around here, and I have even seen Champion's studed out for cheaper than what a puppy would cost. Most around here is $500 or pick of litter. many years ago my husband had a Bulldog, they run $1500 and up, we breed her with a Champion and it was cheaper for me to pay the fee of $500 then a puppy.

[Mardelin]

Originally Posted by julietimothy

the stud fee is lower most of the time around here, and I have even seen Champion's studed out for cheaper than what a puppy would cost. Most around here is $500 or pick of litter. many years ago my husband had a Bulldog, they run $1500 and up, we breed her with a Champion and it was cheaper for me to pay the fee of $500 then a puppy.

I would see that it would be in Alabama.....

I've seen stud fee's on the top yorkie studs above $,1500.

[julietimothy]

Originally Posted by Mardelin

I would see that it would be in Alabama.....

I've seen stud fee's on the top yorkie studs above $,1500.

Not for sure what you mean by that but>>>>> She is ask about studing out her male right?? which is not a Champion, he may come from Champion lines but so does mine. His mom was from Lake Buean Vista and his dad had Big Champions all though his pedigree over 35 Champion on just his dad's pedigree, which I think is a great pedigree. But even with Ace's great pedigree I would and could not charge the same fee as a Champion him self. So when setting a fee for stud you have to look at the stud in question, is it a Champion or not. What kind of pedigree the stud has? The look of the stud and so on. There can not be a set price for a stud fee because you have show dogs and not show dogs. You have some that could be show dogs but is not being shown. So the question is what do you think she should charge for her stud to be studed out??
That is what she is asking right, studing her stud out??