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05-22-2009, 02:11 PM | #1 |
♥Love My Snuggle Bugs♥ Donating Member Join Date: Jan 2009 Location: Missouri
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| Ok Is It or Is It Not Safe I am starting this new thread to keep names out because that seems to cause lots of angry responses on here. My question is....is it or is it not safe to breed 3 lb girls. I have been reading and reading on all parts of YT for months now and everyone says it is not safe and my vet has told me that they absolutely should not be bred under 4 lbs and preferably bigger. That seems to be the popular opinion here. But I have also seen a few post where a breeder sells puppies from 3 lb females and when asked about the practice everyone jumps to their defense. This is confusing to people like me who are not breeders because when we ask about what kind of breeders to look for the first thing we are told here is dont buy from breeders who do this or who advertise "teacup" yorkies which these breeders I am speaking of do. My other question is why the double standards is it just because these breeders say they have been breeding for 20 years or more? If that is the case the "puppy mill" I unfortunately uneducatedly bought Laddy from would be called legit because she said the same thing to me. Also when I asked these questions I was called rude and a trouble maker. I am neither I am just a new to being owned by a yorkie and want to learn all aspects of it. I don't know about others who have been treated like this for asking questions but it really makes me feel like not coming back to YT |
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05-22-2009, 02:19 PM | #2 |
I Love My Yorkies Donating Member Join Date: Feb 2005 Location: Indianapolis, Indiana
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| I think we need a vet opinion or a very experienced breeder on it. I have always read on here and elsewhere that you shouldnt breed A female under 5 lbs but when someone says theyve been doing it for 25 yrs they may know just a little more about it than me.
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05-22-2009, 02:23 PM | #3 |
Puppy Luv Donating Member Join Date: Feb 2005 Location: Canada
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| I think that breeding a female under 5 pounds is unethical no matter how long they have been breeding, a member here or whatever....... no excuse. We all have very strong feelings here when it comes to yorkies, do or say what you feel is right. We can't please everyone, so please yourself. On a internet forum many will have different opinions, don't let that chase you away. I've been here at YT for over 4 years, I made many friends and a few enemies (oops) over time. I don't let it bother me, because I know we all truely care for yorkies in our own way and don't take it personally. |
05-22-2009, 02:23 PM | #4 |
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| You make very good points. I do not think it is safe at all to breed 3 pound females. That is just too little! I don't know of any vets that would give their approval of breeding that small. If someone jumped to the defense of someone doing that on YT, it surprises me. Maybe they did not know the whole story? Maybe the person had 3 pounders that she kepts as pets and did not use for breeding? Just looking at possible reasons why anyone would come to the defense of someone breeding a 3 pounder. Breeding any toy dog is dangerous enough. I can tell you that all too well. We recently lost our female (6-6/5 lbs) after she gave birth to a beautiful litter. It really was a wake up call to how much of a risk we take each time we breed. Someone has to take the risk or we would run out of our adorable Yorkies. But the breeders I respect (and there are several here on YT) do NOT condone breeding 3 pound females!
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05-22-2009, 02:29 PM | #5 |
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| Personally I would not breed a 3 pound female..IMO your putting this yorkie in grave danger. I am a small hobby breeder but do breed standard size yorkies..I am not saying I could not end up with a smaller yorkie.. but this is not due to my breeding this way. You can get a runt from two 9 pound dogs also..for I have one.. he is 3.8 and I fell in love with him and just wanted him as my pet.. I had him altered right away and would not have used him in my breeding program..he came into my life when I least expected I was going to lose a 5 year old at the vets.. I am sure you will get your answers... many people on here are very consistant on how they feel and there posts..so the only double standard would be people having a different opinion.... anne |
05-22-2009, 02:36 PM | #6 | |
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05-22-2009, 02:37 PM | #7 |
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| Placing your question in the breeder section would be the best answer . Because I am certain there would be a lot more experienced answers in this area. However, a lot of tragedies would be advoided if 3lb females were not bred in the first place. IMO, this is too little, and too dangerous for a yorkie to be breeding.
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05-22-2009, 02:47 PM | #8 |
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| well to me everyone has there right to there own opinion and everyone has to do what is best for themselfs and you can't make everyone happy in life that just the way it is so all you can do is mind your own business and do the best you can in life and be thankful there are Yorkies because they sure are wonderful and i know mine have brought me more joy and happiness in my life then i could ever imagine.
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05-22-2009, 02:51 PM | #9 | |
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05-22-2009, 02:56 PM | #10 |
Donating Yorkie Yakker Join Date: May 2005 Location: Watertown, South Dakota
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| i wasn't implying that you mind your own business i was just saying thats why i mind my own business
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05-22-2009, 03:09 PM | #11 | |
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I think sometimes people can take to heart too much that is said..I think you will always get some one that disagree's with you.. but one should not take things so personally.. I learned a long time ago.. that there will always be a post that you can jump all over or by pass it.. I have looked at natalee site and I do see she has many small dogs that she states she does not breed that they are her pets only.. I try not to get into the politics too much..easier to get upset I guess for some.. ask your questions and just know ahead of time. some will agree or disagree... anne | |
05-22-2009, 03:09 PM | #12 | |
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post wrong. She gave her opinion to the question you asked but she could have said more and probably should hav since I feel she is the one you have targeted... I am a breeder of many years also. i personally would not breed a three pound dog. i have bred a four and a half pound dog tho and had good luck. I have bred a seven pouind dog and ended up with dead puppies and a c-section. The girls I currently have are five and six pounds. But Nat is right, all you can do is mind your own business because people are going to do what is best for them. | |
05-22-2009, 03:15 PM | #13 | |
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05-22-2009, 03:47 PM | #14 |
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| I would like to raise yorkshires in a few years and from the research I have done so far I would not breed a yorkie under 4-4.5 pounds.
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05-22-2009, 03:54 PM | #15 |
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