Blue Yorkies

[Jacqulyn]

Hello all. I have tried researching the blue Yorkies. I came across two old threads, and would like more information. I figure that since it was 4-5 years ago those who have dealt with this may be able to help. I don't post much just read and learn. I have taken over my parents breeding program. And, I hate to say the are/were BYB. They always had the best intentions, just didn't know all the health issues that are related to this breed. They have always stood behind their dogs 100% and luckily never had any genetic issues. With that being said I am retiring their dogs and on the look out for some wonderful dogs that conform to standard. I have done my research and am working with our DVM, will do all the proper testing on the new dogs and only sell with spay/neuter contracts on the puppies that have faults. I have started attending shows, and am not sure that I want to show, but am striving to produce show quality.

So here is my question about Blue Yorkies....I have a litter that had one male that was born grey/tan. I contacted AKC that day and sent pictures. The return email stated that he was a Chocolate, and when registering him to send pictures, head and side view. So I started that day looking up Chocolate Yorkies. Up until last night I thought he was a chocolate. Then I found the threads on blue yorkies. He is definitely not a chocolate. He is 14 weeks old and has tan head that is turning a very light tan and his skin is gray with silver to dark blue coloring. His eyes lids and nose have a dark gray/ charcoal coloring and the eyes have a blue/green tint around the outer edge and dark center. He has a full coat, but around the lower saddle area it is getting coarse. His ears are not full of hair and all but the tip are gray colored, the very outer lining is tan.
I know someone that has a blue yorkie. She is 4 years old now and has no hair in the saddle area, has beautiful hazel eyes and very healthy other than the hair. Her dogs was born with little to no hair, and she was advised by her DVM that she should euthanzie the baby. She couldn't bring herself to do so, and is glad now that she didn't. So I am hopeful. I will be neutering the Sire, as I now have two females that are colored the same. So for sure it is from him. I will only sell the babies once they have had a full physical and Dr. Hulse tells me that they should have a decent life. Now, how do they get registered, the same way of sending in pictures or registered as blue/tan, even thought the are not the standard of blue/tan?????I will only sell them to pet homes on a spay/neuter agreement, and if not sold by 6 months will have it done myself. Is $500.00 too much to ask for them? I don't want to just give them away, I want the person to know about them and be willing to take care of them. I figure the cheaper I sell them, the more people will want them, in a bad way, and it will be more difficult to rule out those people. I have a long list of questions for my buyers, including a vet reference, but even shady people can have good vet references. I am just not sure what to do. I worry about all the homes the babies go to, but am more concerned with these guys. I would hate for them to go to the wrong people. I just know that I can't keep them and can't kill them.

[Jacqulyn]

I am new to this so lets, see if I can post pictures

[dmg1029]

I am new to this site also. The pics came out fine. Hope they find good homes. I'm sure they will.

[chachi]

He is cute. To register him I would send in a picture of him thats all you can do. I know not all blue borns have health problems but almost all have skin problems and problems growing hair so thats some of the difficulties the new owners will face

[bjh]

Since you are selling them strictly as pet quality then you might consider just selling them without papers or just register them as blue and gold. As for the price, that will depend on other issues such as the health of the pup and size of the pup. I have never had any pups like that so I am not much help there. The main thing is that you are honest with any prospective buyers about possible health risks in the future.

I wish you the best of luck in with your new yorkies. It is good to know that you are learning and that you are not going to make the same mistakes your parents did.

[Jacqulyn]

Originally Posted by bjh

Since you are selling them strictly as pet quality then you might consider just selling them without papers or just register them as blue and gold. As for the price, that will depend on other issues such as the health of the pup and size of the pup. I have never had any pups like that so I am not much help there. The main thing is that you are honest with any prospective buyers about possible health risks in the future.

I wish you the best of luck in with your new yorkies. It is good to know that you are learning and that you are not going to make the same mistakes your parents did.

Thank you. I am doing my best to be a knowledged and responsible breeder. We love all our dogs and only want to share that joy with others. I am hoping in time to produce some of my own champions. But I am sure that will be years down the road. I still need to spend time out there at the shows and get to know the local shower/breeders here in the central valley of CA. I am going to try and make it to a show in Hanford Sunday. They have a puppy class, I would like to see how my new little guy compares to theirs( I know they are 6-12 months) and see what their opinions are on him. He is only 14 weeks old but has such a great personality, and moves beautifully from what I can tell.

[bjh]

He is a cute little boy. I recommend that you shave the ends of his ears so they might come on up. If they aren't up real soon then you might want to tape them. What are you feeding him?

[fannie]

A couple things...

Welcome to YT!

So that my puppies are guaranteed to not end up in "the wrong hands", I spay and neuter all puppies going to pet homes when they leave. A spay/neuter contract just doesn't always work. Even when you sell a puppy to what seems like the most honorable person, sometimes they make a mistake and have an "oops". And sometimes that "oops" is intentional whether they admit it or not.

I personally would sell those blue puppies at a very reduced cost and definitely have them spayed/neutered before they leave. Then you don't have anybody that gets the wild idea that they might be able to make a few bucks and sell a "rare" yorkie.

As for your boy going to the puppy match. He is cute! You really need to work with his ears and get them up. Our standard states that the top 1/3 of the ear is to be shaved. So not only should you shave them because of the standard, but because it will get the extra weight of all that hair off his ears and help them to stand. At his age, you may even need to tape them to help them stand. What I prefer to do is just massage the ears to bring that extra blood flow to the tips.

Good luck and good job with taking the proper steps to be a reputable breeder!

[Jacqulyn]

Originally Posted by bjh

He is a cute little boy. I recommend that you shave the ends of his ears so they might come on up. If they aren't up real soon then you might want to tape them. What are you feeding him?

Thank you again. I am feeding him and the other babies, Natures Recipe Lamb and Rice. My adult dogs are on Chicken Soup for the dog lovers soul, it is the only food I could get all of them to eat. Do you have any thoughts on my food choices? I am going to shave his ears, we have never had any babies that ears don't stand on thier own but his are still floppy at the tips. My neice is a groomer so she handles all that for us.

[Jacqulyn]

Originally Posted by fannie

A couple things...

Welcome to YT!

So that my puppies are guaranteed to not end up in "the wrong hands", I spay and neuter all puppies going to pet homes when they leave. A spay/neuter contract just doesn't always work. Even when you sell a puppy to what seems like the most honorable person, sometimes they make a mistake and have an "oops". And sometimes that "oops" is intentional whether they admit it or not.

I personally would sell those blue puppies at a very reduced cost and definitely have them spayed/neutered before they leave. Then you don't have anybody that gets the wild idea that they might be able to make a few bucks and sell a "rare" yorkie.

As for your boy going to the puppy match. He is cute! You really need to work with his ears and get them up. Our standard states that the top 1/3 of the ear is to be shaved. So not only should you shave them because of the standard, but because it will get the extra weight of all that hair off his ears and help them to stand. At his age, you may even need to tape them to help them stand. What I prefer to do is just massage the ears to bring that extra blood flow to the tips.

Good luck and good job with taking the proper steps to be a reputable breeder!

Thank you for the advice. I have been thinking about waiting to place them till they are older, so that I would have a better knowledge on their health, I am also considering giving them to family/friends and paying to have the spay/neuter done with our vet. They only other people I am really considering selling to, are a couple of well aged women that have asked about our puppies, but couldn't afford our pricing. I would also pay to have them spayed/neutered at our vet. I don't know, I am just so upset about this whole situation, I wasn't as worried about it till I realized they were not Chocolates. Not that I think they should be bred, but they seem to have healthier lives.

[Jacqulyn]

oops, he just turned 13 weeks old yesterday, I was a week ahead of my self in the previous posting. The blue boy is 14 weeks old. His ears stand when he is alerting to something, do you think I need to tape them along with shaving the tips?

[Jacqulyn]

Originally Posted by chachi

He is cute. To register him I would send in a picture of him thats all you can do. I know not all blue borns have health problems but almost all have skin problems and problems growing hair so thats some of the difficulties the new owners will face

Thank you for your reply, and I must say that I love the name Chachi.

[luckylady]

Originally Posted by Jacqulyn

oops, he just turned 13 weeks old yesterday, I was a week ahead of my self in the previous posting. The blue boy is 14 weeks old. His ears stand when he is alerting to something, do you think I need to tape them along with shaving the tips?

Hi....welcome to Yorkie Talk! Your little blue pups are very cute; I hope they remain healthy and that you find them wonderful loving homes. Sounds to me like they are certainly coming from one
Your new little guy is also very handsome Good luck with him in the ring and/or in the start of your new breeding program.

I would recommend to yes, shave the ears on both your blue and your new guy. They both look like their ears are on their way up, and I'm guessing that once you get the weight of the hair off of their ears, they will be standing erect before you know it.

Good luck to you!

[Jacqulyn]

Originally Posted by luckylady

Hi....welcome to Yorkie Talk! Your little blue pups are very cute; I hope they remain healthy and that you find them wonderful loving homes. Sounds to me like they are certainly coming from one
Your new little guy is also very handsome Good luck with him in the ring and/or in the start of your new breeding program.

I would recommend to yes, shave the ears on both your blue and your new guy. They both look like their ears are on their way up, and I'm guessing that once you get the weight of the hair off of their ears, they will be standing erect before you know it.

Good luck to you!

The blue guys ears have been up since he was 9 weeks old. It's my little guy that is still a little floppy. I am still unsure about showing. From 5-17 I showed paint horses, I loved it and hated it at the same time. It is all about who you know and how much money you have. I loved the traveling every weekend and winning of course, but at times there are those judges that place a bad gaited horse over you because they don't care for the color of your horse, their size, breed or your gear, etc... it is just insane.I am afraid it will be the same in the yorkie ring. I've heard stories of how the judges don't know what they are doing in terms of knowing the breed. And of course it's just one's opinion of your dog, but when you are unfairly judged it becomes frustrating. I have a hard time keeping my mouth shut, so maybe I would be better off having someone else exhibit for me. I guess that will be a discission I will make at a later time. I am sure I will try it at least once. It is good to get to know other fanciers, and first hand knowledge is better than book knowledge, I think. What better place to meet other Yorkie lovers, other than here of course.

[bjh]

Originally Posted by Jacqulyn

Thank you again. I am feeding him and the other babies, Natures Recipe Lamb and Rice. My adult dogs are on Chicken Soup for the dog lovers soul, it is the only food I could get all of them to eat. Do you have any thoughts on my food choices? I am going to shave his ears, we have never had any babies that ears don't stand on thier own but his are still floppy at the tips. My neice is a groomer so she handles all that for us.

I am not familiar with Natures Recipe but I do use the Chicken Soup Puppy when I have puppies. I also feed Canidae. You boy looks very healthy. How much does he weigh now?