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Old 02-13-2009, 08:36 AM   #1
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i am a proud owner of two yorkie's tinkerbell and bear and although they are still puppies 6 mos and 12 weeks i figuered i would start learning everything that i need to know about breeding them now i have atleast a year if not more ( tinkerbell is only 12 weeks) if there is anyone out there who could point me in the right direction, books videos magazines or anything that would give me more knowledge of the situation i would be very grateful all advice is welcomed. I have aalready done my research as far as the negative things that could happen ie c-section breach still born disease and the list goes on and on.
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If your desire is to become a responsible, ethical breeder, then your best option is to find a breeding mentor to work with you and guide you through the process of firstly evaluating your dogs--at this point, you really have no clue if they will even develop into quality specimens of the breed that even should be bred. He/she will also guide you through the actual breeding/whelping/raising a litter process.

You can read all the books and online info in the world, but it's no subsitute from learning and seeing first hand by having an experienced breeder to work with.
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Old 02-13-2009, 01:44 PM   #3
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Thank you for the time you took to answer y question i really do appreciate that. As for having them checked i wouldnt know where to start other than my vet. And she says they are perfect for it however i see your point as far as getting a mentor this sounds like a great idea and im sure i could really learn alot from her/him. I guess by reading the books i am tring to gain knowledge on the different types of diseases possible complictions i really do love my dogs they are not like my children they are my children. How would i go about finding someone who is willing to become my mentore? Do i just post it on here? Thanks again
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You can go to dog shows and talk to breeders there. Maybe you will find a mentor.

Reading is a great place to start though.

What has your vet tested your Yorkies for?
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By 'evaluating' I meant to help you determine how they measure up to the breed standard. Your vet will only be able to tell you if they are physically sound, but not if they are quality representations of the breed that *should* be bred. (Generally speaking, your dog may be a great pet, but may not possess qualities that should be passed on to future generations. Unless your vet is a long time Yorkie expert, or professional judge, he/she will not be able to advise you on that.)
Something to consider: You state that your vet says they "are perfect for it"... How on Earth could ANYONE, vet or otherwise be able to determine that when they are only 12 weeks & 6 months of age!? They still have a lot of growing up to do before that can be determined.

Ellie Mae gave you some good advice on how to go about finding a mentor. Attend shows, introduce yourself, contact breeders in your area, etc...keep trying and trying until you find someone. What about the breeder you got your little ones from? He/she would be a good place to start, and, they should know their own lines pretty well and could help you out.
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The market is flooded with pet quality Yorkies.

You might want to read this thread:

http://www.yorkietalk.com/forums/bre...ling-pups.html
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Old 02-13-2009, 05:11 PM   #7
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My vet has 3 yorkies she was telling me physically for the 6 almost 7 month old that all of his bloodwork is fine and as far as his temperment i dont know how or why my vet stated that but i am just here for some prof. help i want to know everything that i should know from someone who has experienced breeding PERSONALLY. that is the reason i am here in my opinion the vet told me this only because of the high level of care that i provide and bears bloodlines however i know that these are not the only things that determine breed standard however i do not have the eye for that as these are my first yorkies i have a breeder that lives up the street from me however i do not like her breeding style and i am not going to ask her for advice i feel that yorkie talk is a good place because of some of the VERY EXPERIENCED breeders. i know that it is a lot of hard work but i am up for it. does anyone know of any know of any good breeders here in nc?
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Your best bet would be to go to some dog shows and see if you can meet some reputable breeders who will give you advice.

You can find a schedule of shows by state here:

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My vet has 3 yorkies she was telling me physically for the 6 almost 7 month old that all of his bloodwork is fine and as far as his temperment i dont know how or why my vet stated that but i am just here for some prof. help i want to know everything that i should know from someone who has experienced breeding PERSONALLY. that is the reason i am here in my opinion the vet told me this only because of the high level of care that i provide and bears bloodlines however i know that these are not the only things that determine breed standard however i do not have the eye for that as these are my first yorkies i have a breeder that lives up the street from me however i do not like her breeding style and i am not going to ask her for advice i feel that yorkie talk is a good place because of some of the VERY EXPERIENCED breeders. i know that it is a lot of hard work but i am up for it. does anyone know of any know of any good breeders here in nc?
I understand. I didn't mean to imply that you weren't going about researching and preparing...sorry if it came across that way. If your vet has had Yorkies, then that is good, but it's rare that you have a vet with specific breed knowledge, which is why I responded the way I did. You stated you are looking for advice from those who have experienced breeding 'personally'...you are in luck...that's exactly the kind of advice you've been getting so far.

I don't know of any breeders in NC, but Lady'sMom gave you a link to some upcoming shows...that's probably the best place to start to find a mentor. Or as I mentioned earlier, try talking with the breeder you got your little ones from--no one will know their bloodlines better than those who produced them. You may also want to check and see if there are any kennel clubs in your area, or any facilities that offer handling classes.
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HELLO AGAIN
THERE IS NO NEED FOR APOLOGIES I AM VERY OPEN MINDED AND IN THIS CASE I HAVE TO BE YOU GUYS HAVE THE KNOWLEDGE THAT I WANT WHO KNOWS MY VET MAY HAVE GIVEN ME SOME WRONG INFORMATION JUST TO PUT MY MIND AT EASE AND FOR YOU TO QUESTION THAT SHOWES ME HOW PASSIONATE YOU ARE ABOUT BREEDING AND THIS ONLY ENCOURAGES ME I DO HOWEVER KNOW THAT THE SIRE IS OUT OF ASHUNEE'S LINE HE IS A PARTI AND HIS NAME CHECKERS I DONT KNOW IF YOU ARE FAMILIAR WITH HIM OR NOT. I DID LOOK AT THE LINK AND I FOUND A DOG SHOW 3 MILES FROM HERE THE FIRST WEEK OF MARCH( I ALREADY MADE M HUSBAND CLEAR HIS CALENDAR ) I NEVER STATED THE REASON FOR MY BREEDING. IT IS NOT TO SELL THEM I HAVE ALL INTENTIONS ON KEEPING THEM HOWEVER UPON READING YOUR POST AND A FEW OTHERS I AM UNSURE ON WHETHER OR NOT I WANT TO BREED BEAR TO TINK HE IS GORGEOUS DONT GET ME WRONG BUT I THINK I MAY SEARCH FOR A PROVEN PARTI STUD I WAS LOOKING AT A FEW SITES (DIAMONDS IN THE RUFF, STEP N STYLE, AND KAJUN KENNELS) IF ANYONE HAS EVER HEARD OF THEM I WOULD LOVE YOUR ADVICE.
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HELLO AGAIN
THERE IS NO NEED FOR APOLOGIES I AM VERY OPEN MINDED AND IN THIS CASE I HAVE TO BE YOU GUYS HAVE THE KNOWLEDGE THAT I WANT WHO KNOWS MY VET MAY HAVE GIVEN ME SOME WRONG INFORMATION JUST TO PUT MY MIND AT EASE AND FOR YOU TO QUESTION THAT SHOWES ME HOW PASSIONATE YOU ARE ABOUT BREEDING AND THIS ONLY ENCOURAGES ME I DO HOWEVER KNOW THAT THE SIRE IS OUT OF ASHUNEE'S LINE HE IS A PARTI AND HIS NAME CHECKERS I DONT KNOW IF YOU ARE FAMILIAR WITH HIM OR NOT. I DID LOOK AT THE LINK AND I FOUND A DOG SHOW 3 MILES FROM HERE THE FIRST WEEK OF MARCH( I ALREADY MADE M HUSBAND CLEAR HIS CALENDAR ) I NEVER STATED THE REASON FOR MY BREEDING. IT IS NOT TO SELL THEM I HAVE ALL INTENTIONS ON KEEPING THEM HOWEVER UPON READING YOUR POST AND A FEW OTHERS I AM UNSURE ON WHETHER OR NOT I WANT TO BREED BEAR TO TINK HE IS GORGEOUS DONT GET ME WRONG BUT I THINK I MAY SEARCH FOR A PROVEN PARTI STUD I WAS LOOKING AT A FEW SITES (DIAMONDS IN THE RUFF, STEP N STYLE, AND KAJUN KENNELS) IF ANYONE HAS EVER HEARD OF THEM I WOULD LOVE YOUR ADVICE.
Yikes! You hit your caps lock button!

Just to warn you......you won't get much support at shows if you want to breed a parti. Partis are disqualified from showing because it is a color fault.

Please read this (third paragraph):

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This is a very heated subject on YT, so you will get lots of opinions.
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sorry about the whole caps thing . I dont want to show them or anything i just want them for myself because i think that they are gorgeous dogs thats all no shows no breeding twice just want some puppies for myself to spoil lol
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sorry about the whole caps thing . I dont want to show them or anything i just want them for myself because i think that they are gorgeous dogs thats all no shows no breeding twice just want some puppies for myself to spoil lol
What I meant was that you probably won't get a warm welcome at shows if you tell people you want to breed a Parti. The people who show work very hard to produce Yorkies as close to the breed standard as possible. They won't embrace someone who would intentionally breed a color that is considered a fault and an automatic disqualification.

There are Parti breeders here who will be more supportive. You might want to search for "parti" here and get an idea of the emotional you will stir up!

Here's a recent thread:

http://www.yorkietalk.com/forums/bre...onfussion.html
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ok so ive done my research and i understand how people feel about the whole parti "thing" but i dont care I love the breed and they will be MY dog or dogs i dont hear all this commotion about yorkie poos or chorkie's or mutts for that matter i am here to ask for advice on breeding my yorkie not to sell but for myself and you mean to tell me they think its wrong??ok well some people are just crazy lol i mean seriously why do you care if its a parti or not this debate is pointless because even if everyone in the world stopped breeding parti what would we do with the ones that are already here kill them seriously i think this is very childish this is not aimed at traditional yorkie owners nor parti owners its just my thoughts so please dont take it personal let the parti people breed their parties and traditionl breed their traditional this is soo sad i dont care who has a problem with it I LOVE MY BABIES parti and traditional! i have a question for everyone.lets just say that in the future parti's become recognized as a breed or what have you will those of you who think breeding parti's is wrong change your mind about the whole situation?? just another thought!
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I DO HOWEVER KNOW THAT THE SIRE IS OUT OF ASHUNEE'S LINE HE IS A PARTI AND HIS NAME CHECKERS I DONT KNOW IF YOU ARE FAMILIAR WITH HIM OR NOT.
I'm not an advocate of breeding partis...mainly because it's rare that you see it being done with good intentions. And quite honestly, I don't have the time or desire or energy to travel down THAT path today. (It's been a rough week, what can I say.) There are, however, several members here who do breed them and have extensively researched many parti lines. You may want to contact them for info/help. They may be familiar with that line and could offer you more assistance or know what direction to point you in. Look up members JeanieK and Pinehaven--they are YT's resident parti advocates.

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