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01-25-2009, 01:28 PM | #1 |
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| Is He Going to Be Too Big To Breed?? I was "CONSIDERING" breeding my Gucci when we purchase a female about 1 year or 2 from now but I am concerned he will be to big and I won't be able to breed him if I wanted the Yorkies to stay within the Standard. He is 5.5 months and weighs 5.6 lbs already.. he has been gaining about 1 lb per month steadily should I be concerned or will he slow soon? How big is too big? He is very cobby, short legs and equally high as he is long (about 1/2 inch difference) and certainly doesn't look more than 4 lbs but HE IS Thanks for all replies in advance!! |
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01-25-2009, 03:06 PM | #2 |
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| I would think that chances are he will be too big.
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01-25-2009, 03:13 PM | #3 |
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01-25-2009, 03:17 PM | #4 |
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| A big male does not always mean they will have big puppies.....as a ......small male does not always mean they will have small puppies...When breeding you should always check the line that your Yorkie is ...It is genetics that determain the size of the puppies. |
01-25-2009, 03:20 PM | #5 |
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| Big males can have Small puppies....and Small males can have big puppies... |
01-25-2009, 03:21 PM | #6 |
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| Being over 7 lbs is just a fault, like a bad top line, bad front, bad rear, cottony coat, bad bite, etc. I know there are dogs being shown that are over 7 lbs and they are champions. I would not focus on that one issue. You have to look at the over all qualities of your dog. If he has a nice pedigree and no other serious faults then I see nothing wrong with breeding him if he just goes a little over 7 lbs. You have to consider the size of his parents also and if they were smaller then it is possible he would produce smaller pups. You just would just have to breed him to a female in the 7 lbs range. Some puppies really slow down on their growing around 6 months. It is also possible since he has a cobby body he might come up on leg and trim down some. You have plenty of time to evaluate him before he is old enough to use for breeding. |
01-25-2009, 03:24 PM | #7 |
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| All the Yorkies I've ever had stopped growing between 6 and 7 months so he might be close to his adult weight now. As mentioned, the size of the male doesn't guarantee the size if the puppies...I would be concerned about the size of the female. Are you familiar with the line your male came from? What size parents, grandparents, great grandparents and siblings did your male have? That's where you need to be looking too. |
01-25-2009, 04:15 PM | #8 |
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| Both of my kids didn't stop growing until after they turned a year old. My girl was 2 pounds 10 oz @ 10 wks - she is 6 pounds now and almost 3 yrs old. My boy was 3 pounds 8 oz @ 13 weeks and he's 10 pounds and almost 2 yrs old. (He doesn't look like he weighs that much because he's leggy but he's solid and has a nice chest on him.) Yes, there are alot of other things to consider besides size when breeding but personally, I wouldn't breed him if he got much over 7 pounds. Somewhere down the line - his size will show up.
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01-25-2009, 04:18 PM | #9 |
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| very true! research is so important! looking back at your baby's lines will tell you so so much! xoxo.
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01-25-2009, 06:15 PM | #10 |
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| Thank you everyone for your input so far! I will definately be researching, as I have a good year and a half before I breed him (if I breed him). I was just concerned that the puppies would not be within standard, but as many of you have said NOT all 7 lb dogs throw 7 lb dogs... I used to breed Bullys and their offspring depended SOOOOO MUCCHHHHHH on their background. They would usually throw their parents or grandparents before they threw themselves. I suppose Yorkie breeding would be much the same, also I would like to wait and make sure he is going to be healthy (he is so far) as I would not want to breed in problems either. |
01-25-2009, 06:16 PM | #11 |
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01-25-2009, 06:33 PM | #12 |
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| It's always best to line breed yorkies, breeding them is such a challange, since you don't breed phenotype to phenotype as in other breeds and can pretty much determine what you're gonna get. My concern would be more with the size of my female.
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01-25-2009, 06:40 PM | #13 | |
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How small is too small, how big is too big? | |
01-25-2009, 06:44 PM | #14 |
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| [quote=Mardelin;2438112] since you don't breed phenotype to phenotype as in other breeds and can pretty much determine what you're gonna get. [quote] So yorkies are NOT bred phenotype to phenotype? Sorry I am just trying to clarify what I am soaking in here. With my bullys they were not bred phenotype to phenotype either, I could have 2 really bully parents throw a lanky puppy that was thinner and had more leg etc. If I hadn't researched their line correctly or paid little to no attention to the line. So I would do the same with the Yorkie then? Research their lines and the types of dogs in the background to determine traits. See there are traits on my Yorkie I would love to lock in, such as his shorter muzzle and cobby body, but there are other things I would want to add such as rounder eyes... I would then look for a female with those traits correct? or uncorrect? |
01-25-2009, 06:48 PM | #15 |
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| IMO I find that it is the bone strutcure of the female, she might weight 6 pounds but not be big enough in the pelvic area to have babies..you have to measure her and even then, things can go wrong......Some people think if they fatten up their female to 6 pounds, this will make her big enough to have babies..This is Not True....Make sure her Structure is big enough.. |
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