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01-24-2009, 04:28 PM | #1 |
Senior Yorkie Talker Join Date: Jul 2008 Location: Albuquerque, NM USA
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| 2 questions My dog had puppies! Ok so my female yorkie hads puppies yesterday. I expected three puppies at the most. Because previous litters have been in the range of two and three. Well it turns out my mamma dog is really rough while whelping her pups. And she cuts the cords to short well actually pulls them completely out. I came home from work early yesterday to find she had already whelped five puppies in which she had ripped the cords of two of them. I immediately sat down with her and didnt leave her side until this morning. She had one more pup that I helped clean up. So we have six pups. The pups are doing really well and the pups with the hold in their bellys actaully made it through the night. Please tell me if anyt of you have experience with this. Im not sure if the vet could actaully sew the belly up or if its not even worth it. I told myself if they make it through the night and are eating I would take them to the vet. Things is they are not eating. I've tried to help them latch on since yesterday. Please help me on this. 2nd questions have you ever heard of giving a dog tums? One of my breeder friends said the vet told her to give her nursing dog tums to prevent preyclampsia. Please any info you guys could share would be wonderful and most appreciated. |
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01-24-2009, 04:45 PM | #2 |
Senior Yorkie Talker Join Date: Jul 2008 Location: Albuquerque, NM USA
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| This is the second time she has done this. The first time I took her and the pups to the vet the vet said she couldnt do anything about it. I admit I have not been the best doggy mama. Since the birth of my baby I have not dedicated the time to my dogs that I should. And in all actuallity she was not supposed to be pregnant. When she was in heat I took my male to my moms and left him for the month. I can only assume they bred before I realized she was in heat. Ya know I dont need to be made aware of what I should have done I am looking for help and advice on what to do next. I do take full responsibility for my dogs and will do whatever I have to do to make sure my dog and her pups are ok. |
01-24-2009, 05:00 PM | #3 | |
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Congrats on the new puppies!! You can chew 1 tums yourself and than give it to the mommy (gives them the extra calcium), with 6 puppies, she'll need it...1 a day. I've never experienced myself where the mommy chews too far down on the cord, but I have heard of this happening. But if their stomach is open, than I would definitly take them to the Vet and/or even a ER Vet. Have you checked to see if they have a cleft lip, since they are not nursing? Or maybe you can bottle feed them. Good Luck and keep us posted on what the Vet has to say or do. Last edited by clm56; 01-24-2009 at 05:02 PM. | |
01-24-2009, 05:37 PM | #4 |
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| Yes, hon, you need to get them to a vet asap. Leaving the stomach in that condition is a breeding ground for infection. Whether you feel like you have or haven't been a good mom is not the issue right now. The issue is that it is now entirely YOUR responsibility to make sure these puppies thrive. NOT doing anything is pretty much assuring that they will not. You cannot wait to see what happens because both you and I KNOW what will happen if you wait. You know that they will go downhill quickly without the proper care. Those babies need attention by a vet now. Good luck with them. PS.. If you cannot get them to latch on, try putting a drop of karo syrup on you finger and then to the puppies tongue. If they try suckling, place them on mom's teat. You may need to rub some karo syrup on mom. If that doesn't work, get to walmart or a pet store and get some canine milk suppliment. You can feed them with a small bottle or a syringe.
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01-24-2009, 06:36 PM | #5 |
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| 2 puppies oK,WE ARE HERE NOT TO JUDGE ONE ANOTHER.first THING IS THE BELLIES WHEN i WELP WITH THE MOTHER I HAVE STEPIC PENCILE, THE KID OUR FATHER USD WHEN HE SHAVED.Put this on the belly were the cord is hold for a few minutes,this stops the bleeding As for the not eating you need to let the smaller and the ones who do not nurse go first,Our Molly had 5 puppies by c section, and my mother and i stayed up all night so we could get the smaller ones to nurse first.As for the vet, you need to get there tails docted and due claws cut out.Everything is a learning tool.If you need to talk to me please e mail me at 2hotrods@comcast.net or call 815-625-1252.Hope this helps.As i said before we are here to help one another not judge, hope this helps cathy |
01-24-2009, 09:39 PM | #6 |
Senior Yorkie Talker Join Date: Sep 2006 Location: Harlem,Ga.
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| a freind of mine told me to feed my new momma a teaspoon of plain yogurt (do not use fat free)and cottage cheese, and i also mixed in a little bit of shredded cheese for extra calcium while she is nursing. it really helped.... |
01-24-2009, 10:21 PM | #7 |
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| First off Congratulations on the 6 new Puppies!! That said a septic pencil will stop the bleeding But, if their bellies are open get them to a vet ASAP!! To help them suck rub Karo on their tongues/gums and on the mother's nipples. Let the little ones nurse and the ones who are having trouble! If that doesn't work get a puppy nurser and replacement milk for the non-suckers and feed them every 2 hours!! Rub their gums with Karo to give them some nurishment!! Please keep us posted especially as to what the Vet says...Blessings to all, Good-Luck...
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01-24-2009, 11:03 PM | #8 | |
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I hope you don't feel I was judging her.. because I WASN'T. In fact, I was trying to reassure her that regardless of what kind of mom she thinks she has been, it is the babies who need to come first right now. From her decription the "hole" in thier stomach sounds more serious than something that is fixable with styptic pencil.
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01-24-2009, 11:45 PM | #9 | |
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I think this was excellent advice !!!! Congradulations on the 6 puppies! I hope they all will be OK!
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01-25-2009, 12:11 AM | #10 |
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| I can't imagine a vet saying they couldn't do anything about the pups. I think I would have found a new vet after the prior litter. However, if that's truly the case, the two things that are most important are making sure those babies eat and that infection doesn't set in. You could clean the babies' bellies with a surgical soap such as betadine and then apply some antibiotic cream such as Neosporin. If there really is a hole there, the mother could introduce bacteria by licking them so they should be removed from her. They will need to be kept warm with a heating pad. You could put them in a box with a heating pad. Cover the heating pad so the pups aren't directly on it but still get the warmth from it. They should feel warm to the touch but can get too hot and dehydrate so watch out for that. You'll need a milk substitute (such as Just Born, Esbilac, etc. or even goat's milk). It needs to be warmed just as baby formula is and they need to be fed every 2 hours. An eyedropper works well with newborns. If they were born yesterday and haven't eaten, it's a wonder they're still alive. You really must feed those babies. I really feel they should be at the vet's to have their bellies seen about but they must eat and eat now or they will not make it. They will also have to be stimulated to pee and poo. You can do this with a warm damp washcloth after feedings. Best of luck. Please see a vet, keep those babies warm and keep up with the feedings. It must be done around the clock every two hours. |
01-25-2009, 06:14 AM | #11 |
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| Best of luck with the pups. Stories such as yours are the reason I will never be a breeder but respect those who do
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01-25-2009, 06:33 AM | #12 |
Furbutts = LOVE Donating Member Moderator | Hoping for an update on the babies. Hope they are doing well this morning.
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01-26-2009, 05:24 AM | #13 |
Senior Yorkie Talker Join Date: Jul 2008 Location: Albuquerque, NM USA
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| First of all I want to thank you all for the support and help. It really did help. Ok so I took the pups to the vet Sunday monring (a different one from before) And same thing. He said since they are so small there is no need to stitch them up. I let the vet know I was going to try my best to help these babies. So we tried feeding the pups at the vet and realized one had a hole in its intestine. I guess from cutting the cord so short it punctured the intestine. Once I got home I tried feeding the babies with all the advice I got and it HELPED. I did feed the pups Saturday too but not so Gung Ho about it. Until I came from the vet. I did lose the pup with the hole in its intestine. But managed to keep the other two. I have to say its with all your help why we've suceeded. However I have another question. This morning when I got up to put mama out she started throwing up. DO any of you know what this is about? Thank you all without Yorkie talk Im sure I wouldnt be so happy right now! |
01-26-2009, 05:46 AM | #14 | |
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Did the vet check the Mom out?
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01-26-2009, 05:55 AM | #15 |
Donating YT 4000 Club Member | I am not an experience breeder having had only one whelping under my belt, but I did two months worth of research, you should have her check by the vet and then I suggest you give her whelping pudding at least 3 times a day, that is what I was told and has work for my Taffy like a god send. here's the recipie.. best of luck with the pups and mom.. this is what I was told by a very experience breeder ... .."Whelping pudding provides your girl with energy,calcium and good solid nutrients while whelping and lactating, it helps your girl with milk production" and this is the recepie i been using since Taffy went into labor and is lactating the now 2 week old babies.. Mother's or Whelping Pudding. 1 can of evaporated milk 2 egg yolks 2 TBS of clear Karo syrop 2 TBS of whole milk plain yogurt 3 envelopes of Knox plain Gelatin 2 cups of water 2 onz of HOT water to disolve gelatin in a microwave proof cup, disolve the gelatin and microwave for about 20 seconds to disolve well, mix all the ingredients in a mixing bowl and pour in a plastic container and refrigerate. Feed your bitch 3 times a day. * I mix it with her kibble for lunch and dinner . and I give her some before I go to bed. she also has free access to her puppy kibble. |
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