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Old 10-31-2008, 05:02 PM   #1
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Just an idea.

Um, mods?

Di you think it could be possible to have stickies about breeding.

I mean, that way the information is there for those who are interested in learning.

Also, maybe, just maybe if just one person changed their mind about breeding their pets because the information was made available to them, it would be worth it.

Food for thought, I guess.

I don't know.
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this is the first one I ever read, back when I thought about breeding my first dog.



BREEDING IS EASY....OR IS IT?

Many people think that breeding dogs is easy. However, the reality is quite different.

I often have people email me who want to breed, and invariably their bitch has just come into season, and they want to breed without having the skills or the knowledge. At best, this is careless. If your bitch is in season, and you are asking questions now, then do NOT breed her. Wait until you are properly trained and mentored.


If you do not have the competencies required to facilitate the breeding of your bitch, the raising of puppies, and the placement of puppies, it is irresponsible and unethical to breed until you have.

As a starting point, if you can answer the following questions, then you'll be well on the track to being ready to breed. If you can't answer 90% of these, don't even bother attempting to breed until you can:


Setting yourself up right

What does dog conformation refer to?
How can you test if my dog has the correct conformation?
What important points should be considered on a dog's pedigree?
How many championships should be listed in a pedigree prior to breeding?

The beginning of the season

When will a bitch first come into season?
Should a bitch be bred on her first season?
How old should a bitch be before breeding commences?
On what grounds should a bitch not be bred from?
On what days is a bitch fertile?
How long is a bitch's season?

Breeding the dogs

On what day's should a bitch be bred?
What is a studmaster and when should they be used?
On what attributes is a stud dog selected?
What health testing should both the dam and dog have prior to breeding?
How old should a dog be before he is used at stud?
What are the responsibilities of a stud dog owner?
What are the important contract items to have in a breeding contract?
On what grounds should a dog be neutered?
What diseases can a dog get while being bred?
When should a dog be allowed near an in season bitch?
How does the breeding actually take place?
Does there need to be a tie for a breeding to have taken place?
What is AI and when should it be conducted?
Who should conduct the AI and what specific precautions should be taken?
Why is the stud dog turned during a breeding?
How many times should a bitch be bred?
Can a litter have more than one father?
Where must a bitch be kept while she is in season?

Gestation

How long is a bitch's gestation?
What special diet should the bitch be fed while in season, and while pregnant?
Under what special circumstances should additional calcium be fed to a pregnant bitch?

Whelping

What are the signs that a bitch is going into labour?
What is the best type of whelping box arrangements?
Where should the bitch be when she whelps?
What are the signs that the whelping is going well?
What are the signs that there are problems developing?
When should a c-section be performed?
What is primary inertia and the implications?
What is secondary inertia and the implications?
What is oxytocin?
When should the vet be called for help?
Should calcium be administered during whelping?
What does green fluid indicate?
How long should it take for a bitch to whelp?
What is the incidence of puppy deaths in each litter?
What is a breach birth, how often does it happen, and what are the problems that can result?
What are the implications for a pup born out of the sac?
How do you ensure that each placenta is accounted for, and what do you do if they are not?
What should be done with the placenta?
How do you resuscitate a dead puppy?
How do you clear fluid from a puppy's lungs?
How many extra set of hands should you have at a c-section?
When should oxygen be administered to puppies?
When should puppies first fed from the dam?
How do you check for cleft palate?
How are puppies who are deformed managed?

Caring for the mother

What should the dam be fed while she is looking after puppies?
What are the signs of infection in the bitch?

Caring for puppies

What are the signs that the puppies are progressing well?
What are the signs that the puppies are in trouble?
What is mastisis and how is it treated?
What do you do if the dam's milk does not come in?
How do you bottle feed a puppy, and what do you use?
How do you tube feed a puppy?
How can you tell if a puppy is feeding well?
How can you tell if a pup has received enough milk?
How can you check to see if a pup is dehydrated?
What is fading puppy syndrome and how do you rescue a puppy from it?
What are the common problems to be aware of when raising the puppies?
When do you introduce "real food" to puppies?
Why should puppies never be given "baby food"?
Why should puppies not be given grains to eat?
Should puppies be vaccinated?
Should puppies be wormed?
Under what conditions should a puppy be culled and how?
Under what conditions should a puppy be wormed and/or vaccinated?

Placing puppies

How do you choose puppy buyers?
What responsibilities do you have as a breeder for those pups?
What sort of guarantees are you going to offer the buyers?
How do you ensure your puppy buyers are going to look after the puppies?
When and how do you temperament test puppies?
How do you match the right puppy with the right person?
When do you remove the dam from the puppies?
When should the puppies be totally weaned?
How are puppies house trained?
When are puppies first socialised and how?
What sort of puppy pack information are you going to provide to the buyers?
When do you start training the puppies?
What breeder support are you offering once the puppies have gone?




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You'll find the answers to these questions from gaining loads of experience under the careful guidance of a mentor before you breed yourself. Please if your serious about becoming a responsible / ethical breeder then learn the answers rather than looking for that quick way around.


My sincere thanks to Jane Johnson for her hard work in putting this excellent list of our thoughts together. http://www.globalpaw.com/forum/images/smilies/smile.gif
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I hope I dont get in trouble for this


Average Profit / Loss on a Litter

The average number of pups:

born in each litter 7
dying before eight weeks 2
sold per litter 4
given away or kept by owners 1

The percentage of breeders:

who had at least one pup returned to them 31%
who had legal complications with buyers 8%
whose bitch or pups encountered medical problems endangering animal(s) lives 63%
whose bitch will not be bred again (1*) 49%

The average expenses incurred to breed the bitch and raise pups until they are sold:

original cost of bitch $462.29
cost of male $772.57
veterinary expenses $430.09
extra food for pregnant/nursing bitch $73.44
food for pups $175.65
equipment for delivery and housing pups $282.13
salaries lost because of absence from work $247.20
ads and other costs to sell pups $177.31

Total average expense to raise one litter $2,260.58

The average number of hours spent with bitch and pups until they were sold 345
Multiplied by a minimum wage ( x $3.50 ) $1,207.50
Average income on sale of a litter $1,345.71
Average amount lost per litter $2,482.47

The averages show here were calculated from 35 breedings. The 35 breedings included a litter from each of the following: one Alaskan Malamute, one Border Terrier, one Borzoi, one Boston Terrier, one Doberman, Great Dane, one Kuvasz, one Labrador Retriever, one Lhasa Apso, one Mastiff, one Samoyed, one Siberian Husky, one Vizsla, two Dachshunds, two Golden Retrievers, two Norwegian Elkhounds, tow Rottweilers, two Shetland Sheepdogs, three German Shepherd, the Newfoundlands, and four Poodles ( one Miniature; three Standards).

(1*) It may be as a result of increased danger to the bitch's health, a strong possibility of reproducing a serious genetic abnormality in future pups, or extreme financial loss.

authur Carol Urban

Please keep in mind that some breeds require much, much more time spent with the bitches. Also many require additional breeding expenses due to the need for artificial insemination as well as c-sections!
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There already stickys at the top of almost every forum. Especially the FOR SALE forum. Just look around the site a little. You might also do a search and you will find that everything you have mentioned since joining has been discussed over and over. there are also people on this forum that work tirelessly with rescue groups . You might want to join one of those groups of people since you are so new and that seems to be your interest..
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There already stickys at the top of almost every forum. Especially the FOR SALE forum. Just look around the site a little. You might also do a search and you will find that everything you have mentioned since joining has been discussed over and over. there are also people on this forum that work tirelessly with rescue groups . You might want to join one of those groups of people since you are so new and that seems to be your interest..
Oh yes I have been on here for a few hours now!

I have learned much much about the Yorkshire Terrier.


I don't own one but I groom them on a regular basis. I have a few request Yorkies, but one in particular is my favorite. Her name is Bella and she is in full coat. She is beautiful.

I just figured this would be an extremely important forum for those stickies to be in, that is why I asked.

I am sure these things have been discussed, but why stop. Why send people to search.

Breeders dont come on here searching, they come here so ask questions, so why not have the information present for them and why not have members to gently approach the subjest of responsible breeding.

Im sorry if I am causing trouble, I just saw that this particular forum does not have a sticky, so I asked. The stickies I see warn people about puppy mills and list breeders to avoid, but nothing about actually breeding.

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Wow that was a quick ban on free speech LOL...I thought this person was very informative LOL...they let one thread go on and on and on and some didn't get banned and took forever to get closed LOL...I find it weird in my personal opinion...did I miss something?

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Wow that was a quick ban on free speech LOL...I thought this person was very informative LOL...they let one thread go on and on and on and some didn't get banned and took forever to get closed LOL...I find it weird in my personal opinion...did I miss something?

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I can't imagine that the OP was banned quickly or for no good reason. I am sure there was more to it than what was written here on this thread. I did read the $ statistics...way off on the yorkie breed....lol...I'm more in debt than what was given!
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I can't imagine that the OP was banned quickly or for no good reason. I am sure there was more to it than what was written here on this thread. I did read the $ statistics...way off on the yorkie breed....lol...I'm more in debt than what was given!
I mean I'm in debt too because of yorkies but I really didn't see anything on either thread that would cause a ban unless it was all in private messages but then again I don't get involved much anymore because I have to agree some if not the majority are hobby breeders (most don't breed to the standard) and don't blast me for my opinion LOL...it's just that


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