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HillbillyBelle · 09-20-2008, 08:29 AM

I recently had to make the decision to retire from one of the joys of my life-breeding. I decided to place my last 2 moms in pet home because I wanted them to stay together and yet have other playmates as they did here at my home. After talking with a former rescuer and interviewing the person she recommended, I placed my girls with her free of charge.
I was away for a week and when I got back and picked up my messages this is what I found. I cried like a baby and then I got good and mad.
So, my question is--am I being a ninny about this? Am I being hyper-sensitive? This was the last thing I expected from her. The first message is from her and the second is my reply....
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Here are some photos that****** daughter,*******, took of my new kiddos. Ilsa is the one in pink bow or NO bow. Schu is one in yellow/gold type bow. They were breeding stock and the "breeder" is retiring. Ilsa is four and Schu will be two the end of this month. Schu was bred back to back (I cant believe that a reputable breeder would do that) and she would not care for either litter. she is only five pounds and has to be spayed soon. Ilsa is considered a Beiwer Yorkie and Schu is a Biro yorkie - their puppies sold for $3000 - $3500 each. I am happy that the breeder chose me to care for two of her girls!!

My reply

*****, You cannot imagine my disappointment at the comment directed at me about a "reputable breeder" breeding back to back. Did you think I would not see this message? Or was it your intention for me to see it in this way?
Please research reproductive research and the specialists thoughts on breeding practices and you will find that they have said that the uterus ages every time a bitch goes into heat whether she is bred or not. Some have even said that their preference would be to breed a healthy bitch back to back times two and then rest her OR breed each heat cycle *[starting at age 18 months or older]til age five and retire her.
As you must be aware, I am VERY upset about this and if you had concerns about my breeding practices you should have voiced them at the time you came to see my girls. You were GIVEN those girls, and yes, you have a right to your opinion, but a public forum was not the place to express it without ever talking with me or expressing your criticism of my breeding practices to me!!
I know that you will give them a good home and for that, I am grateful. But, in the future, if you have any criticism of me, I would ask that you express them to me before sending such messages as this to others.
Again, I am disappointed and hurt that you have chosen to handle this matter this way. This has certainly put a damper on my joy at the placement of my spoiled, beloved girls. My heart is broken....
Is it true that "no good deed goes unpunished"? I surely hope not.

I am aware that this message was not posted on a public forum but I am also aware that messages do not stop circulating with the addressees.

spr377 · 09-20-2008, 09:08 AM

was the message sent to you, from her? or was it forwarded from someone else? I'm confused? Either way, she should be forever grateful that you put your trust in her to have your beloved girls. The comment about your breeding practices was unwarranted, and shouldn't have been said while she was introducing her girls. I guess she must have wanted to boost her own self-esteem, by having people think she "rescued" them. I'm also sensitive, and would have been hurt by her statement. However, if she is going to be good the the dogs, that is all that counts in the end. People that know you, wouldn't pay attention to what she says, anyway.

HillbillyBelle · 09-20-2008, 09:10 AM

My addy was included in her message with a link to the pics so it came from her. Maybe by mistake???

TammyJM · 09-20-2008, 09:15 AM

Ok, silly question...you are Rini, right?

HillbillyBelle · 09-20-2008, 09:17 AM

Yep! That's me....I used to post as Whispersmom, a long time ago.

TammyJM · 09-20-2008, 09:24 AM

OK, I just wanted to make sure before I posted to the wrong person.

I have personally spoken with you on the phone a few months back, when I was still looking for my male. You were the NICEST SWEETEST person and it was very obvious how much you loved your fur babies!!! I would not just wrote this if it weren't true...I have no reason. You were talking to them in the background and you spoke so lovingly about them as well. If I can get that feeling from you in just one converstion over the phone, then she knows what kind of person you are with your dogs! Maybe she is the type that feels the need to get a little bit of attention...I am not saying this about her to be mean. Truly, some people are just like this. I wish that she hadn't written that and maybe she will try to correct it.

Tammy

HillbillyBelle · 09-20-2008, 09:32 AM

AWWWW, thanx Tammy. Now, I am blubbering again. I am okay that she will give the girls a good home but, well, I just felt like I had been punched in the gut.
Sorry, folks. I don't usually get upset about these things. I have been breeding so long and have placed puppies free or at a minimum fee and the important thing is their home. This is a first for me...
Thanx for letting me vent!!!

DvlshAngel985 · 09-20-2008, 09:40 AM

Of course this is just my opinion, but she's being really insensitive. She gets to have two very beautiful furbabies free of charge, that would be anyone on YT's dream come true!!!! Yet she criticizes you for your breeding practices and even talks about the price of the puppies, which I don't understand why she would even do that at all. If it were me and you were offering me the puppies and I felt the way she did in her message, I would of never taken those puppies.
As a breeder you did everything in your power to get good loving homes for your babies, AS ANY GOOD BREEDER SHOULD! Am I right?

As someone who is a new yorkie mom she should have done her reasearch and if she was uncomfortable with your practices she could have simply said "no thanks."
I don't think your being oversensitive at all, she had no right to put you down in front of others, even if it's just in cyberspace.

TammyJM · 09-20-2008, 09:49 AM

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Originally Posted by DvlshAngel985

Of course this is just my opinion, but she's being really insensitive. She gets to have two very beautiful furbabies free of charge, that would be anyone on YT's dream come true!!!! Yet she criticizes you for your breeding practices and even talks about the price of the puppies, which I don't understand why she would even do that at all. If it were me and you were offering me the puppies and I felt the way she did in her message, I would of never taken those puppies.
As a breeder you did everything in your power to get good loving homes for your babies, AS ANY GOOD BREEDER SHOULD! Am I right?

As someone who is a new yorkie mom she should have done her reasearch and if she was uncomfortable with your practices she could have simply said "no thanks."
I don't think your being oversensitive at all, she had no right to put you down in front of others, even if it's just in cyberspace.

I agree! And anyone with common sense knows that if you were the type of breeder that she is trying to make you out to be, you certainly wouldn't have just given her two dogs free of charge. That's just silly on her part to write such a contradiction.

Tammy

HillbillyBelle · 09-20-2008, 09:51 AM

These actually were 2 adults..healthy, happy, socialized, UTD on shots, vetted and good to go. My problem was-I could not keep them due to personal health problems as well as hubby's health. One little girl was shy and was intimidated by my older boys and needed a different home with her buddy. They are staying together and that was a requirement.
Again, thanx for letting me sputter for a while. I promise, I will get on with things and take care of the 4 others I have.

chachi · 09-20-2008, 09:59 AM

I would have been very upset to read that after giving the person two well cared for yorkies. I can understand why that would bother you

ksmoss · 09-20-2008, 10:13 AM

As someone who owns one of your beautiful biewers I can tell everyone that the puppy you raised for me is healthy, sweet and beautiful. When we got our puppy Piper she was extremely well adjusted and socialized. I don't know what her requirements for a "breeder" are, but I am extremely pleased and honored to own one of your little darlings. I would have loved to have Piper's mom Ilsa as she is beautiful. Perhaps the woman you were generous enough to give your babies to needs the positive feedback from rescuing a dog. Maybe though she should consider how lucky she is to have them as part of her life, and be thankful for the gift of their love you have given her.

HillbillyBelle · 09-20-2008, 10:59 AM

Thanx! She has had rescues forever..as well as puppies from local show breeders that she has bought. She has a good heart, I think, as I have heard she has taken in sick and abandoned dogs from Yorkie rescue.
Maybe she just doesn't like breeders, huh? Even retired ones...LOL

Pinehaven · 09-20-2008, 11:52 AM

I would have been upset too Rini, it's ashame that some people are so judgemental and thoughtless.

You gave this woman not one but 2, beloved, beautiful and perfect gifts of life and how dare her say anything but positive words when talking about what you have entrusted with her. I'm so sorry!

Onto a happier note ... I hear we may be having a get together next week?
Would you like me to bring your grandson or great grandson to the reunion (or both)?? These two boys are the most beautiful and perfect yorkies I own. So please, don't feel down due to someone's thoughtless words because your years of knowledge and expertise have benefited many, many yorkie and biewer lovers. I among others, appreciate you and your breeding program, more than you will ever know! Thank you!!!

JeanieK · 09-20-2008, 12:02 PM

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Originally Posted by TammyJM

OK, I just wanted to make sure before I posted to the wrong person.

I have personally spoken with you on the phone a few months back, when I was still looking for my male. You were the NICEST SWEETEST person and it was very obvious how much you loved your fur babies!!! I would not just wrote this if it weren't true...I have no reason. You were talking to them in the background and you spoke so lovingly about them as well. If I can get that feeling from you in just one converstion over the phone, then she knows what kind of person you are with your dogs! Maybe she is the type that feels the need to get a little bit of attention...I am not saying this about her to be mean. Truly, some people are just like this. I wish that she hadn't written that and maybe she will try to correct it.

Tammy

I too spoke with Rini on the phone before i even started breeding. She can across as a very knowledgable experienced breeder. This person obviously feels the need to make herself out to be superior.

Man if they were my babies I'd go and snatch them back.

Bless you Rini, that had to be a very hard decision, and then to have it turn on you like that.

09-20-2008, 08:29 AM	#1
HillbillyBelle Senior Yorkie Talker Join Date: Aug 2008 Location: MD Posts: 111	Am I being hypersensitive???? I recently had to make the decision to retire from one of the joys of my life-breeding. I decided to place my last 2 moms in pet home because I wanted them to stay together and yet have other playmates as they did here at my home. After talking with a former rescuer and interviewing the person she recommended, I placed my girls with her free of charge. I was away for a week and when I got back and picked up my messages this is what I found. I cried like a baby and then I got good and mad. So, my question is--am I being a ninny about this? Am I being hyper-sensitive? This was the last thing I expected from her. The first message is from her and the second is my reply.... ****************************** Here are some photos that** daughter,***, took of my new kiddos. Ilsa is the one in pink bow or NO bow. Schu is one in yellow/gold type bow. They were breeding stock and the "breeder" is retiring. Ilsa is four and Schu will be two the end of this month. Schu was bred back to back (I cant believe that a reputable breeder would do that) and she would not care for either litter. she is only five pounds and has to be spayed soon. Ilsa is considered a Beiwer Yorkie and Schu is a Biro yorkie - their puppies sold for $3000 - $3500 each. I am happy that the breeder chose me to care for two of her girls!! My reply **, You cannot imagine my disappointment at the comment directed at me about a "reputable breeder" breeding back to back. Did you think I would not see this message? Or was it your intention for me to see it in this way? Please research reproductive research and the specialists thoughts on breeding practices and you will find that they have said that the uterus ages every time a bitch goes into heat whether she is bred or not. Some have even said that their preference would be to breed a healthy bitch back to back times two and then rest her OR breed each heat cycle [starting at age 18 months or older]til age five and retire her. As you must be aware, I am VERY upset about this and if you had concerns about my breeding practices you should have voiced them at the time you came to see my girls. You were GIVEN those girls, and yes, you have a right to your opinion, but a public forum was not the place to express it without ever talking with me or expressing your criticism of my breeding practices to me!! I know that you will give them a good home and for that, I am grateful. But, in the future, if you have any criticism of me, I would ask that you express them to me before sending such messages as this to others. Again, I am disappointed and hurt that you have chosen to handle this matter this way. This has certainly put a damper on my joy at the placement of my spoiled, beloved girls. My heart is broken.... Is it true that "no good deed goes unpunished"? I surely hope not. I am aware that this message was not posted on a public forum but I am also aware that messages do not stop circulating with the addressees.

09-20-2008, 09:08 AM	#2
spr377 Donating Yorkie Yakker Join Date: Jun 2007 Location: Upstate, NY Posts: 2,015	was the message sent to you, from her? or was it forwarded from someone else? I'm confused? Either way, she should be forever grateful that you put your trust in her to have your beloved girls. The comment about your breeding practices was unwarranted, and shouldn't have been said while she was introducing her girls. I guess she must have wanted to boost her own self-esteem, by having people think she "rescued" them. I'm also sensitive, and would have been hurt by her statement. However, if she is going to be good the the dogs, that is all that counts in the end. People that know you, wouldn't pay attention to what she says, anyway. __________________ Piper Leo Baby Piccolo

09-20-2008, 09:40 AM	#8
DvlshAngel985 Donating YT 2000 Club Member Join Date: May 2008 Location: Los Angeles, California, USA Posts: 12,693	Of course this is just my opinion, but she's being really insensitive. She gets to have two very beautiful furbabies free of charge, that would be anyone on YT's dream come true!!!! Yet she criticizes you for your breeding practices and even talks about the price of the puppies, which I don't understand why she would even do that at all. If it were me and you were offering me the puppies and I felt the way she did in her message, I would of never taken those puppies. As a breeder you did everything in your power to get good loving homes for your babies, AS ANY GOOD BREEDER SHOULD! Am I right? As someone who is a new yorkie mom she should have done her reasearch and if she was uncomfortable with your practices she could have simply said "no thanks." I don't think your being oversensitive at all, she had no right to put you down in front of others, even if it's just in cyberspace. __________________ Littlest JakJak We miss you Kaji

09-20-2008, 09:59 AM	#11
chachi I Love My Yorkies Donating Member Join Date: Feb 2005 Location: Indianapolis, Indiana Posts: 37,147	I would have been very upset to read that after giving the person two well cared for yorkies. I can understand why that would bother you __________________ Chachi's & Jewels Mom Jewels http://www.dogster.com/?132431 Chachi http://www.dogster.com/?132427

09-20-2008, 10:13 AM	#12
ksmoss Donating Senior Yorkie Talker Join Date: Jun 2008 Location: tracy,california USA Posts: 35	Ungrateful As someone who owns one of your beautiful biewers I can tell everyone that the puppy you raised for me is healthy, sweet and beautiful. When we got our puppy Piper she was extremely well adjusted and socialized. I don't know what her requirements for a "breeder" are, but I am extremely pleased and honored to own one of your little darlings. I would have loved to have Piper's mom Ilsa as she is beautiful. Perhaps the woman you were generous enough to give your babies to needs the positive feedback from rescuing a dog. Maybe though she should consider how lucky she is to have them as part of her life, and be thankful for the gift of their love you have given her.

09-20-2008, 09:10 AM	#3
HillbillyBelle Senior Yorkie Talker Join Date: Aug 2008 Location: MD Posts: 111	My addy was included in her message with a link to the pics so it came from her. Maybe by mistake???

09-20-2008, 09:15 AM	#4
TammyJM No Longer a Member Join Date: Mar 2007 Location: With My Beautiful Fur Babies! Posts: 5,525	Ok, silly question...you are Rini, right?

09-20-2008, 09:17 AM	#5
HillbillyBelle Senior Yorkie Talker Join Date: Aug 2008 Location: MD Posts: 111	Yep! That's me....I used to post as Whispersmom, a long time ago.

09-20-2008, 09:24 AM	#6
TammyJM No Longer a Member Join Date: Mar 2007 Location: With My Beautiful Fur Babies! Posts: 5,525	OK, I just wanted to make sure before I posted to the wrong person. I have personally spoken with you on the phone a few months back, when I was still looking for my male. You were the NICEST SWEETEST person and it was very obvious how much you loved your fur babies!!! I would not just wrote this if it weren't true...I have no reason. You were talking to them in the background and you spoke so lovingly about them as well. If I can get that feeling from you in just one converstion over the phone, then she knows what kind of person you are with your dogs! Maybe she is the type that feels the need to get a little bit of attention...I am not saying this about her to be mean. Truly, some people are just like this. I wish that she hadn't written that and maybe she will try to correct it. Tammy

09-20-2008, 09:32 AM	#7
HillbillyBelle Senior Yorkie Talker Join Date: Aug 2008 Location: MD Posts: 111	AWWWW, thanx Tammy. Now, I am blubbering again. I am okay that she will give the girls a good home but, well, I just felt like I had been punched in the gut. Sorry, folks. I don't usually get upset about these things. I have been breeding so long and have placed puppies free or at a minimum fee and the important thing is their home. This is a first for me... Thanx for letting me vent!!!

09-20-2008, 09:51 AM	#10
HillbillyBelle Senior Yorkie Talker Join Date: Aug 2008 Location: MD Posts: 111	These actually were 2 adults..healthy, happy, socialized, UTD on shots, vetted and good to go. My problem was-I could not keep them due to personal health problems as well as hubby's health. One little girl was shy and was intimidated by my older boys and needed a different home with her buddy. They are staying together and that was a requirement. Again, thanx for letting me sputter for a while. I promise, I will get on with things and take care of the 4 others I have.

09-20-2008, 10:59 AM	#13
HillbillyBelle Senior Yorkie Talker Join Date: Aug 2008 Location: MD Posts: 111	Thanx! She has had rescues forever..as well as puppies from local show breeders that she has bought. She has a good heart, I think, as I have heard she has taken in sick and abandoned dogs from Yorkie rescue. Maybe she just doesn't like breeders, huh? Even retired ones...LOL

09-20-2008, 11:52 AM	#14
Pinehaven Donating Senior Yorkie Talker Join Date: Aug 2006 Location: Virginia Posts: 923	I would have been upset too Rini, it's ashame that some people are so judgemental and thoughtless. You gave this woman not one but 2, beloved, beautiful and perfect gifts of life and how dare her say anything but positive words when talking about what you have entrusted with her. I'm so sorry! Onto a happier note ... I hear we may be having a get together next week? Would you like me to bring your grandson or great grandson to the reunion (or both)?? These two boys are the most beautiful and perfect yorkies I own. So please, don't feel down due to someone's thoughtless words because your years of knowledge and expertise have benefited many, many yorkie and biewer lovers. I among others, appreciate you and your breeding program, more than you will ever know! Thank you!!! __________________ *Sue White* www.pinehavenyorkies.com Colorful Yorkshire Terrier Club www.colorfulyorkie.com Last edited by Pinehaven; 09-20-2008 at 11:55 AM.