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Old 09-04-2008, 03:26 PM   #1
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Ok her it goes, I breeder.Bought a pup from another breeder in VA.Paid for breeding rights.Pup had heart mumur at 10, was not real conserned have seen them go away.Had her checked again at 18 weeks ,now is a 6.Vet says
not to breed her .How would you handle this if you were the breeder.he gave me 72 hr vet ck ,money back,but dumb me thought it would go away,Which I have seen it happen.
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Ok her it goes, I breeder.Bought a pup from another breeder in VA.Paid for breeding rights.Pup had heart mumur at 10, was not real conserned have seen them go away.Had her checked again at 18 weeks ,now is a 6.Vet says
not to breed her .How would you handle this if you were the breeder.he gave me 72 hr vet ck ,money back,but dumb me thought it would go away,Which I have seen it happen.
have her spayed and love her and keep her as a pet.. call it a learning experience..
you can ask for a partial refund.. i hope you get it
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Old 09-04-2008, 04:30 PM   #3
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well yes she will be spayed,i could nevere give her back.This girl is not a backyard breeder.She owns kennl license by state of Va and Akc,I relize it is just one of thouse things but if it was me,as a breeder i would give a nother pup and tell them to keep thedog, over i wanta good reputation
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Have you talked to the breeder you got her from? Maybe an acceptable agreement can be made about another puppy.(maybe the second one will not be as expensive, etc) Did she know you wanted to breed her? 72 hours is not much of a contract if you are buying breeding stock.
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Old 09-05-2008, 03:36 AM   #5
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Yes she knew it was for breeding,I paid for breeding right,well I wrote her email 3 days ago ,no answer, I evan said I understand nature,but evan if she worked with me and gave me a pup and I would give her pup back to pay for it. I just know how I would handel this.I quess Being breede i should know better,But thought another breeder would maake good to another breeder.
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At the very least, she should give you back the extra money you paid for the breeding rights. If you want another pup, however, she will probably ask you to return the one you have so she can be resold.
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I would never return her, how would you evan resell a puppy who has a hole in her heart.I was not asking her o give me another puppy just work with me on maybe give me a pup and i could repay her witha puppy or evan 2 from a litter. No I would never do that to Secret.She is a # 6 mumur which they are pretty sure she has a hole in heart,She goes to cardoligst in Oct a sorry would me nice, dont act like i did not contact you
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At the very least, she should give you back the extra money you paid for the breeding rights. If you want another pup, however, she will probably ask you to return the one you have so she can be resold.
I agree with this.
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A murmur graded at 6 is a congential defect. The breeding pair also need to be spay/neutered along with any siblings from the litter.

Was there no written health guarantee beyond a 72 hours? Without that you likely have no recourse.

Not knocking your breeder...but being licensed doesn't necessarily make you a reputable breeder.

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I am very sorry that you have such a sick puppy, a grade 6 heart murmur is a serious problem. The breeder should at the very least not breed the parents together again and offer a replacement of the puppy, or the option to purchase another puppy from a different litter at a discounted price.

I think people also need to realize that not every breeder that would take back a sick puppy would resell the puppy. I would happily take this puppy back whether for pet or show and replace it with a healthy puppy at no charge. I would keep the dog here with me and make sure she received the care she needed, I would definately not resell the puppy or euthanize the puppy as some also like to believe all breeders will do.

However I also never would have sold a puppy with a heart murmur in the first place, since our puppies are listened to several times before they leave by our vet. And I would never have sold such a young puppy with full registration.

My best advice for your next addition to your breeding program is to get a solid written contract with a health guarantee of at least a year. Also I would not recommend purchasing a puppy for show or breeding before 6 months old.

I hope your little girl will be ok and that she can live a long, happy life.
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A kennel licensee means nothing in regards to getting a good dog, it just means that that this particular person sells so many dogs that the USDA requires her to get a license. The United States Department of Agriculture requires licenses by people who sell over a certain number of dogs a year, they only have to follow the rules listed for all livestock, which as you probably know are not necessarily humane.
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I am very sorry that you have such a sick puppy, a grade 6 heart murmur is a serious problem. The breeder should at the very least not breed the parents together again and offer a replacement of the puppy, or the option to purchase another puppy from a different litter at a discounted price.

I think people also need to realize that not every breeder that would take back a sick puppy would resell the puppy. I would happily take this puppy back whether for pet or show and replace it with a healthy puppy at no charge. I would keep the dog here with me and make sure she received the care she needed, I would definately not resell the puppy or euthanize the puppy as some also like to believe all breeders will do.

However I also never would have sold a puppy with a heart murmur in the first place, since our puppies are listened to several times before they leave by our vet. And I would never have sold such a young puppy with full registration.

My best advice for your next addition to your breeding program is to get a solid written contract with a health guarantee of at least a year. Also I would not recommend purchasing a puppy for show or breeding before 6 months old.

I hope your little girl will be ok and that she can live a long, happy life.
I agree!! If I took back this gal she would stay with me or go to a special home and she would be free.
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I'm sorry you are going through this. Its great that you are taking her to see a cardiologist. They can tell you exactly what the problem is.
My Lilly had a 5/6 murmur, turned out to be PDA. I had her surgery scheduled and the night after surgery she passed away. It was very devastating to me. The procedure is very sucessful though...there is a YT member here that had the same surgery done on her baby and he's fine..will live a normal happy life.

Not sure what happened with Lilly....I just say that God needed her.

I'll be praying for her. Please keep us posted.
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Sorry for what happened to you.. anne
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I sent you a PM.... if you will forward me a copy of your agreement as well as any emails you two exchanged, I'll try to see if you have any recourse.
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