It was probably okay....but I didn't like it.....

[luckylady]

I was walking to my car as I left PetSmart this afternoon when I noticed a lady meeting up with a younger lady and at that point I just thought they were two people who knew & ran into each other in the parking lot. With the older ladies' back to me, I noticed her "ooooing" over what I thought (couldn't see) was a baby the younger girl was holding. Boy, was I wrong! To my surprise, the next thing I saw was the younger girl handing over a little black puppy (looked to be a pug or boston terrier), to the other lady, whose kids then came from their car and took the puppy while the lady got out her cash and paid the breeder for the dog.

I've read before about some people not being comfortable with strangers coming to their home & I understand the concern. Maybe it's because I've never actually SEEN this done before, but I did'nt get a warm fuzzy feeling from seeing that transaction. Maybe it had something to do with the fact that the only "paper" I saw changing hands was cash....no contract, no puppy packet, no puppy shot records, nothing but the puppy and $$$ money $$$.
Everyone seemed nice enough and happy so I hope my ill feelings were for nothing, but JMO........I just didn't like it.
I sure hope the lady had met the pup, his littermates, and his mommy, and knew what kind of home he was coming from before today.

[Lady of Yorkies]

You think the lady who bought the puppy ought to wonder? I say shame on the seller! If that was their first meeting, how can she possibly know what kind of home she just sold that baby into? Even if she is a great judge of character at a first meeting, it doesn't sound like they spent any time getting to know each other. Hopefully, they have spoken at great lengths over the phone before they met.

I don't want people coming to my house. My dogs live in my house and I don't want any germs they are not already exposed to brought in. I do sometimes allow people to come in but I am not comfortable about it. I REALLY hate talking to people out in the yard but my home is their sanctuary. Sylvia

Originally Posted by luckylady

I was walking to my car as I left PetSmart this afternoon when I noticed a lady meeting up with a younger lady and at that point I just thought they were two people who knew & ran into each other in the parking lot. With the older ladies' back to me, I noticed her "ooooing" over what I thought (couldn't see) was a baby the younger girl was holding. Boy, was I wrong! To my surprise, the next thing I saw was the younger girl handing over a little black puppy (looked to be a pug or boston terrier), to the other lady, whose kids then came from their car and took the puppy while the lady got out her cash and paid the breeder for the dog.

I've read before about some people not being comfortable with strangers coming to their home & I understand the concern. Maybe it's because I've never actually SEEN this done before, but I did'nt get a warm fuzzy feeling from seeing that transaction. Maybe it had something to do with the fact that the only "paper" I saw changing hands was cash....no contract, no puppy packet, no puppy shot records, nothing but the puppy and $$$ money $$$.
Everyone seemed nice enough and happy so I hope my ill feelings were for nothing, but JMO........I just didn't like it.
I sure hope the lady had met the pup, his littermates, and his mommy, and knew what kind of home he was coming from before today.

[Rae Rae]

I would probably get the same feeling, kind of a gut instinct thing. But maybe, just maybe, this person already visited the breeders home, contracts were already done, and there's more too it then it looks like. My aunt got a puppy a few months ago, and the breeder lived probably over an hour away. While my aunt constantly talked to the breeder on the phone and did visit her house before the puppies were ready to be taken, when it was time to get the puppy they met up at a gas station in my aunts area because the breeder was driving through there. I'm sure from the outside, if I saw something like that at a gas station I would be like WTH? but there was more too it. Let's hope this is the case with this one, because yeah, usually if a breeder doesn't want you to come to there house it's because they have something to hide, not always, but I wouldn't buy from a breeder who wouldn't show me where the pups are coming from. I completly agree why some breeders don't want people coming to there house, but I gotta look out for myself too.

[Sugar's Mom]

it would depend on the situation. I have met people in a McDonald's parking lot to hand over my dogs before. ONLY because we had already talked and talked and arrangements had already been made. They sign the papers when I hand the dog over to them. I have done that because they have driven a long way and had no interest in coming to my house and the meeting place was right off the Interstate so they could turn right around and head back down the highway.

[KrissieBella]

It sounds to me like she is a "Back Yard Breeder". She certainly doesn't sound to me to be a reputable one. I do feel that breeder's should have guidelines, if they care about the puppies at all. Just MHO.

[Tcarnagie]

I fostered a litter of Pit Bull puppies. I had one lady come over to look at one of the puppies, I liked her and ended up letting her take one of the puppies. A week later, she came back and wanted another one, I wasn't real sure but finally said alright. Again she brought the other puppy she got from me. Two weeks later, she comes back with a half dead dog (the 1st one she got) and the second one she got because they had parvo from her yard. I got the privilege of watching 2 puppies die and treating 4 others. I would never again have anyone come to my house and possible bring the threat of a disease there.

[luckylady]

Originally Posted by Sugar's Mom

it would depend on the situation. I have met people in a McDonald's parking lot to hand over my dogs before. ONLY because we had already talked and talked and arrangements had already been made. They sign the papers when I hand the dog over to them. I have done that because they have driven a long way and had no interest in coming to my house and the meeting place was right off the Interstate so they could turn right around and head back down the highway.

You know Dee, as I was typing my original post here, I was thinking about you and I when you delivered Toby to me at the airport. And most of us know that you are a very reputable breeder! I know exchanges are made this way, I guess what really bothered me about what I saw yesterday was the fact that there was absolutely no contracts/paperwork being gone over, only the exchange of the puppy and the cash. As I mentioned, I can only hope there were other conversations/meetings before the one I saw.

[luckylady]

Originally Posted by Tcarnagie

I fostered a litter of Pit Bull puppies. I had one lady come over to look at one of the puppies, I liked her and ended up letting her take one of the puppies. A week later, she came back and wanted another one, I wasn't real sure but finally said alright. Again she brought the other puppy she got from me. Two weeks later, she comes back with a half dead dog (the 1st one she got) and the second one she got because they had parvo from her yard. I got the privilege of watching 2 puppies die and treating 4 others. I would never again have anyone come to my house and possible bring the threat of a disease there.

WOW Now there is a very good point made for reasons NOT to have strangers come to your home! Thanks for that info.

[Tcarnagie]

Originally Posted by luckylady

WOW Now there is a very good point made for reasons NOT to have strangers come to your home! Thanks for that info.

I would say not to let them come to your house because I think they need to see the environment that the dogs live in, but that was my first and last experience with puppies and it was horrible.

When I went to the breeder's house that I got my bulldog from, he made everyone where shoe covers and they had to sanitize their hands before you could touch one of his dogs. I think that was a great idea and I wish I had done that.

[Lady of Yorkies]

This type of story is all over the internet and in personal stories. It is exactly one of the reasons I don't want people in my house. When I get my actual kennel built, I will have plate glass windows separating the office from the dogs so people can look thru and see my set up but not go in. The puppies and/or dogs can be brought out to the office to be seen.

Originally Posted by Tcarnagie

I fostered a litter of Pit Bull puppies. I had one lady come over to look at one of the puppies, I liked her and ended up letting her take one of the puppies. A week later, she came back and wanted another one, I wasn't real sure but finally said alright. Again she brought the other puppy she got from me. Two weeks later, she comes back with a half dead dog (the 1st one she got) and the second one she got because they had parvo from her yard. I got the privilege of watching 2 puppies die and treating 4 others. I would never again have anyone come to my house and possible bring the threat of a disease there.

[Lady of Yorkies]

I will probably adapt this to my kennel also but I do not really have much faith that it will keep out half of the diseases and germs that can harm my babies. There has to be a better way. I have even heard of people with a tub of bleach water outside their kennels that they made the prospective parents step into before they were allowed into the kennel. Sylvia

Originally Posted by Tcarnagie

I would say not to let them come to your house because I think they need to see the environment that the dogs live in, but that was my first and last experience with puppies and it was horrible.

When I went to the breeder's house that I got my bulldog from, he made everyone wear shoe covers and they had to sanitize their hands before you could touch one of his dogs. I think that was a great idea and I wish I had done that.

[Tcarnagie]

I think adding the windows is a great idea. It would diffenitally be cheaper than treating 6 six puppies and infecting your yard and house for the next 10 years or so.

[nancyfancypants]

Turning over a dog in a parking lot certainly sounds weird; I think I'd want to see where the dog was raised from birth. The precautions people list above certainly sound reasonable enough for someone to come to the house to pick up the dog. Makes me wonder if the seller isn't raising the dogs in the right environment, but of course, there's no way to know without knowing the whole story whether it's on the up and up.

[Lady of Yorkies]

Originally Posted by nancyfancypants

Turning over a dog in a parking lot certainly sounds weird; I think I'd want to see where the dog was raised from birth. The precautions people list above certainly sound reasonable enough for someone to come to the house to pick up the dog. Makes me wonder if the seller isn't raising the dogs in the right environment, but of course, there's no way to know without knowing the whole story whether it's on the up and up.

Any way you look at it, it's a chancy proposition. Someone has to extend trust first. I try but I am very scared at exposing my babies to anything further. My ex-mentor sold me 3 dogs but she had moved from her home to a farm. My dogs came down with coccidia and I lost several. Especially some puppies that also had low blood sugar. I know there are other ways they could have gotten coccidia but it was too coincidental that there were chickens on that farm and that my dogs suddenly got sick.

[HighlandYorkies]

Well you're not going to like me much then...but for interests sake here is my story !

As many of you know I have 4 Yorkies...my three tinnies and my standard puppy.
I live in Scotland and we certainly don't have the hangups and laws concerning pups that the US does...and before everyone gets on to me, we don't have the problems you have over there either. Yes we have rescue centres, but not huge scale abuses and the likes that come with being in a huge and diverse country such as yours....just rarely.
For instance we see cross bred dogs as equals...I still can't get over how they are seen over with you....they are often the most healthiest of dogs as they are not "overbred"....and I have had both.

Anyway...just different views, from different sides of the pond.

I bought Corky my 6 month pup in the Bingo hall car-park !
Yes I did !
...And it was fine !
I phoned the ad in the pet-shop window and Corky was there waiting for me...he was "meant" as I knew he was there in that window before I got to it...I am a bit psychic ha ha.
Donna said she would save me the trip as she was coming to Bingo in Inverness that night....and we had talked on the phone anyway. So, although I did want to see Mum and Dad I knew exactly the street of the town she came from as I have lived there myself in the past, so agreed thinking I could visit later.
Well we SHOCK HORROR exchanged money in the carpark and she gave me pupz and the pedigree papers...and now she is a good friend who I keep in contact with, who is now also a member of YT and other places I am on, and we e-mail and keep in contact. I have still only seen Mum and Dad of Corky(6 months) in pics, but I know where she is, and I can see her anytime I am up there on a run out....
And btw, every other time I have gone to the house of the dog/pup I have bought....and one was horrendous and the dog was in a terrible state and I did not leave her there...it was my duty to take her for vet treatment and give her the love and care she deserves....if I go for a pup/dog, I buy it.

We are a small country and we all look out for one another over here....we are very friendly and honest people and we don't have the worries of a huge country that you have...so I don't think I could trust doing it there unless I knew how things worked over there....but here....it is fine.
Oh and also Donna isn't a puppy farm...I know what to look out for and what questions to ask with those. I was happy with Donna and she was happy with me.

I am now hoping that this story doesn't offend anyone.....
We are all small clans over here you know ha ha....and everyone is our neighbour !
Luv DEBRA, ......Tara Casper Tammy Corky x x x x