Some Question regarding rescued (possible) Yorkie

[sammiz]

Hello,

I have a Yorkie but do not breed and I have some questions I need to ask.

My friend's aunt just 'found' a little dog that my friend believes might be a Yorkie that got 'dumped' by puppymillers. She still has milk in her like she just had a litter recently. She is in deplorable condition. Matted, ticks, fleas, mange, extremely underweight (skin and bones).

Her back is swayed and my friend asked me if this could happen by being overbred and pregnant all the time. I told her I would ask you all. Her aunt has had her for about a week and her milk is starting to dry up some now, but when she got there her milk was flowing and her teats were nearly dragging the ground. She estimates her weight to be about four pounds.

Her aunt is not the kind to do extensive vet care. She bathed it over and over again with flea shampoo (which I told my friend could kill her) and she is considering a flea collar which I told my friend to tell her not to use.

My friend and I just had a bit of a heated discussion because I told her if she gets it spayed to make sure they use the right anesthesia. I told her Isoflurane. She told me she thinks the vets will know which one to use. I said no...you need to tell them, else she could die from being anesthetized. I told her every time I look up anything about Yorkies it always brings me back to YT.

So...the questions about the swayback and being overbred...what do you think? And if she is four pounds now in such horrible condition, I think she could possibly be about seven when properly cared for. ??

I know they just busted a puppymill in Tehachapi and I think this is probably a puppymill dog. I am sure there must be some in Bakersfield, which is where this one was found. I would like to find them and kick their a-- from here to Kalamazoo.

Okay...any help would be appreciated. I will be seeing this poor baby on Tuesday, I think. I will let you know what happens.

[luckylady]

Hi, I don't really have any answers for your questions but just wanted to say that I am glad this poor baby was found and taken in by our friends aunt. Poor thing sounds like she is/was in deplorable condition and most definitely (IMO) NEEDS to be seen by a vet to be checked out for any underlying problems. Coming from a puppymill, there very likely could be some. If this lady plans on keeping the pup, I do hope she will have her checked by a vet.....she may need shots too and should probably be spayed.
In any case, I'm glad she was found.....if you are going to see her, maybe you could post some pics afterwards.

[jencar98]

Sammi, my little Jodie Foster is a rescue girl, surrendered by a byb. She is ten yo, bred for 7 years, and she has a sway back too. It's probably related to being overbred, but I couldn't say for certain. I would imagine, just like with our bodies changing after having babies, a yorkie after years of having babies, body would change.

I just hope the little girl didn't have puppies somewhere that needed her. If the yorkie came from a puppymill, it's possibly she is microchipped. Your friend might want to have her scanned.

Bless your friend for saving her and you for helping her out.

[JeanieK]

Wishing your friend's aunt good luck with her precious gift from heaven. the poor little thing must have been miseravle with all that milk.

As for the surgery. I would guess that most vets do know what anesthetic to use, and one could ask what they use, and discuss it with them, but not "tell" them.

I recently took my Lil Bit in to be neutered, he has a heart murmur. When I went to get him and to pay the bill, it was more than what they had quoted so I questioned the difference in price, and they told me that they used a more expensive anesthetic because of the high risk.

IMO if I did not trust my vet, I would not take my babies to him, but I would never try to tell them how to do their job.

[majesticyorkies]

Originally Posted by JeanieK

Wishing your friend's aunt good luck with her precious gift from heaven. the poor little thing must have been miseravle with all that milk.

As for the surgery. I would guess that most vets do know what anesthetic to use, and one could ask what they use, and discuss it with them, but not "tell" them.

I recently took my Lil Bit in to be neutered, he has a heart murmur. When I went to get him and to pay the bill, it was more than what they had quoted so I questioned the difference in price, and they told me that they used a more expensive anesthetic because of the high risk.

IMO if I did not trust my vet, I would not take my babies to him, but I would never try to tell them how to do their job.

your so right my vet uses gas to up them under it is the safe way he says, hi girl long time no see, I love your parti yorkies so much! good luck with your new baby poor thingwe need to get rid of breeder like that, just leave the poor bby on the side of the road sounds like she was bred to death to me puppy mills make my blood boil, so glad that your aunt found her god was looking out for her! blessings

[Duncanmom]

Hi-

I'd get this girl in good health before considering spaying. Get her weight up and rid of fleas, ticks, matts etc. Then re-evaluate the sway back, she may not be at all, once in her normal weight range for her bone structure and size. Weight on her will pull down the topline, it could correct on its own.

Either way I am glad she's been rescued.

Duncanmom

[sammiz]

Originally Posted by JeanieK

Wishing your friend's aunt good luck with her precious gift from heaven. the poor little thing must have been miseravle with all that milk.

As for the surgery. I would guess that most vets do know what anesthetic to use, and one could ask what they use, and discuss it with them, but not "tell" them.

I recently took my Lil Bit in to be neutered, he has a heart murmur. When I went to get him and to pay the bill, it was more than what they had quoted so I questioned the difference in price, and they told me that they used a more expensive anesthetic because of the high risk.

IMO if I did not trust my vet, I would not take my babies to him, but I would never try to tell them how to do their job.

It's good that you trust your vet. That is important. However, this woman has no vet. She has a pit bull and I think she gives the shots to it herself. She was not even aware of heartworms until these recent discussions regarding the little one that she found.

She is of the mind that she has rescued the dog and it now has a better life for it. Which is true, but only to a point. She will not spend much money (as would most any of us here, as needed) and we were talking about that very thing when I was advising my friend. When I told her it would cost more for the proper anesthesia, she said...and I quote "She won't do that"...I volunteered to pay the extra and also to pay for the prescreening bloodwork before the spay because she won't do that either. Sooo....my concern is that since she doesn't have a vet, if she takes a stray dog in deplorable condition to 'a' vet and she doesn't want to spend any extra, then it is my belief that the dog may not make it.

So yes...you wouldn't take your babies to a vet you didn't trust....but then...this is a situation that is a far cry from 'normal' and very much different to your situation. I'm trying to make sure she knows how important it is to ask for certain things that you already know but she doesn't. I am simply trying to help save this little life, not tell a vet how to do his/her job.

[sammiz]

Originally Posted by Duncanmom

Hi-

I'd get this girl in good health before considering spaying. Get her weight up and rid of fleas, ticks, matts etc. Then re-evaluate the sway back, she may not be at all, once in her normal weight range for her bone structure and size. Weight on her will pull down the topline, it could correct on its own.

Either way I am glad she's been rescued.

Duncanmom

Thank you. Yes, I quite agree. I tried to get some capstar to her and some Advantage. My friend said she would not accept it. Stupid woman! It isn't for her it's for the dog.

I am also of the opinion that she needs to be cared for and brought up to proper weight before the spay. But....since she will not bring the dog inside, she wants to get her spayed right off. She believes she knows what needs to be done but then, she's never dealt with such a tiny girl before.

I am thinking I may end up with her. I can't stand it that she is going to keep her outside.

[JeanieK]

Originally Posted by sammiz

It's good that you trust your vet. That is important. However, this woman has no vet. She has a pit bull and I think she gives the shots to it herself. She was not even aware of heartworms until these recent discussions regarding the little one that she found.

She is of the mind that she has rescued the dog and it now has a better life for it. Which is true, but only to a point. She will not spend much money (as would most any of us here, as needed) and we were talking about that very thing when I was advising my friend. When I told her it would cost more for the proper anesthesia, she said...and I quote "She won't do that"...I volunteered to pay the extra and also to pay for the prescreening bloodwork before the spay because she won't do that either. Sooo....my concern is that since she doesn't have a vet, if she takes a stray dog in deplorable condition to 'a' vet and she doesn't want to spend any extra, then it is my belief that the dog may not make it.

So yes...you wouldn't take your babies to a vet you didn't trust....but then...this is a situation that is a far cry from 'normal' and very much different to your situation. I'm trying to make sure she knows how important it is to ask for certain things that you already know but she doesn't. I am simply trying to help save this little life, not tell a vet how to do his/her job.

I understand your frustration, but the fact of the matter is, that this is beyond your control, so I guess all we can do is to hope that the vet knows what he is doing. My guess is that she won't even take her in to be spayed.

[sammiz]

Originally Posted by JeanieK

I understand your frustration, but the fact of the matter is, that this is beyond your control, so I guess all we can do is to hope that the vet knows what he is doing. My guess is that she won't even take her in to be spayed.

Well...I don't give up very easily when a little life is hanging in the balance. We are still 'talking' and trying to get her to let us take it to our vet. I will happily pay to make sure she gets the best that can be provided for her. It is my feeling that she has suffered enough and if I can help her at all by being tenacious and continuing to attempt to help, this is what I will do.

And she will get her spayed. Of this I am certain. I just want do everything I am able to in order for her to make it through all this so that she can enjoy some normal and happy existance on this earth before she leaves it.

No. I won't give up. I will continue to fight for her and hopefully, can make a difference in her little life.

[sammiz]

Originally Posted by luckylady

Hi, I don't really have any answers for your questions but just wanted to say that I am glad this poor baby was found and taken in by our friends aunt. Poor thing sounds like she is/was in deplorable condition and most definitely (IMO) NEEDS to be seen by a vet to be checked out for any underlying problems. Coming from a puppymill, there very likely could be some. If this lady plans on keeping the pup, I do hope she will have her checked by a vet.....she may need shots too and should probably be spayed.
In any case, I'm glad she was found.....if you are going to see her, maybe you could post some pics afterwards.

Thank you for your caring and supportive input. I am going to do my best for her.

I will take my camera with me when I go on Tuesday. I am hoping we will be able to get her the proper care that she needs.

[red98vett]

Originally Posted by sammiz

Well...I don't give up very easily when a little life is hanging in the balance. We are still 'talking' and trying to get her to let us take it to our vet. I will happily pay to make sure she gets the best that can be provided for her. It is my feeling that she has suffered enough and if I can help her at all by being tenacious and continuing to attempt to help, this is what I will do.

And she will get her spayed. Of this I am certain. I just want do everything I am able to in order for her to make it through all this so that she can enjoy some normal and happy existance on this earth before she leaves it.

No. I won't give up. I will continue to fight for her and hopefully, can make a difference in her little life.

oh girl you are THE BEST ~ I can't believe she won't listen to you and why turn down Flea meds when that poor dog is suffering ?

and you already HAVE a yorkie - so why wont she listen to someone who knows what she's talking about ?

Bless your heart - I know this has to be weighing on your heart and please keep us posted about this poor dog ok ? MAN - I don't know whether to be happy she got away from 'where ever' she was... or be sad.....I hope your friends aunt does right by her. I know you aren't in the postition to take on more pets but knowing you - you would. She's already lucky to have you on her side....

GOOD LUCK and you rock for all the help your TRYING to give this yorkie.

[sammiz]

Originally Posted by jencar98

Sammi, my little Jodie Foster is a rescue girl, surrendered by a byb. She is ten yo, bred for 7 years, and she has a sway back too. It's probably related to being overbred, but I couldn't say for certain. I would imagine, just like with our bodies changing after having babies, a yorkie after years of having babies, body would change.

I just hope the little girl didn't have puppies somewhere that needed her. If the yorkie came from a puppymill, it's possibly she is microchipped. Your friend might want to have her scanned.

Bless your friend for saving her and you for helping her out.

Hi Jen!

I would love to see some pictures of your girl!

I had no idea that puppymills chip their dogs. I surely wouldn't want her to go back to them, though.

She was severely matted, had ticks, fleas, mites and something (??) that is attached to the hair shafts. She is in bad, bad shape. Poor baby!

[sammiz]

Originally Posted by red98vett

oh girl you are THE BEST ~ I can't believe she won't listen to you and why turn down Flea meds when that poor dog is suffering ?

and you already HAVE a yorkie - so why wont she listen to someone who knows what she's talking about ?

Bless your heart - I know this has to be weighing on your heart and please keep us posted about this poor dog ok ? MAN - I don't know whether to be happy she got away from 'where ever' she was... or be sad.....I hope your friends aunt does right by her. I know you aren't in the postition to take on more pets but knowing you - you would. She's already lucky to have you on her side....

GOOD LUCK and you rock for all the help your TRYING to give this yorkie.

Hey you!

Yes, I am willing to take her but I need to make sure she doesn't have anything that will affect Sassy negatively. My first responsibility has to be to her (Sassy). I certainly may end up with this baby. I am not even certain at this point that it is a Yorkie, but regardless, I have to do all I can on her behalf, eh?

Thank you Villette. You are a blessing to me.

Hugs.

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[Woogie Man]

Sounds like you're doing all you can, given the situation. Are you talking to the lady that has the dog or through someone else? Maybe if you keep at it, something will sink in. If you go visit the dog, she might see how she responds when someone that truly knows how to care for a little one is around. Probably the best thing would be for you to take her on yourself but you're right....your first obligation is to your baby. Maybe if you can keep the communication going, this will have a good outcome. I can't help but wonder what happened to the babies from this girl...sounds like a sad situation all around. I know how you must feel. We all know there are tragic stories with animals all around us, but when you personally see something you just have to try and make it better. Good luck in your efforts....looking forward to some positive updates.