Breeding my Teacup

[Woogie Man]

Originally Posted by khyorkies

great post.

I contacted her and she said she was done with this site. She said she got pm's saying that she is going to kill her yorkie by breeding it. I told if she had any more questions she could contact me if she wanted to and I would help her any way I could.

That's very nice of you to do so . I never would have thought that people would PM someone in such a way. At some point, isn't that harassment? Maybe this will be a thread where some will take a look at themselves and their posts. People need to think of the welfare of the dogs and not their own personal feelings and check their attitudes.

[Tnyorkiemom]

Originally Posted by sheilajom

You are not a yorkie owner? Well then whose dog are you trying to breed? Just because you don't know that there isn't a such thing as a teacup, doesn't mean that there is. Some people believe in Santa, but that doesn't make him real now does it?

i have read where both AKC and CKC both call them tiny toy breed...if under 5 pounds you cant show them though....standard is 5-7....but both say " no such thing as ""teacup""....just a term some breeders use to describe there yorkies that are expected to stay under 4 lb.s

[BakersDozen]

Originally Posted by Woogie Man

That's very nice of you to do so . I never would have thought that people would PM someone in such a way. At some point, isn't that harassment? Maybe this will be a thread where some will take a look at themselves and their posts. People need to think of the welfare of the dogs and not their own personal feelings and check their attitudes.

[sheilajom]

Originally Posted by Tnyorkiemom

i have read where both AKC and CKC both call them tiny toy breed...if under 5 pounds you cant show them though....standard is 5-7....but both say " no such thing as ""teacup""....just a term some breeders use to describe there yorkies that are expected to stay under 4 lb.s

I know this. I told her that.

[Tammyh]

Originally Posted by sheilajom

I seriously doubt that a person who wants to breed their pup for money would listen to anyone that was trying to tell them not to. They only want someone to tell them it is ok and how to do it. Especially since she came to strangers without consulting the breeder or her vet first? Just doesn't make any sense. Seems to me she had already been told not to and was looking for someone to tell her she could.

I disagree. When I got Bella I felt a little guilty about how much I paid for her so we thought we would breed her just once to offset some of the costs and keep one for ourselves. I was naive, we figured dogs/animals breed all of the time in the wild so what's the big deal right? Well, after reading lots of posts on this site and learning so much I've since changed my mind. I didn't realize the possible dangers of breeding a small dog. I would die if something happened to Bella! She's more important to me than offsetting her costs. Also, I've come to realize how important it is to maintain a certain standard in breeding. I've learned all of this by reading others posts which I really appreciate. But I have to say, had I come to this site and asked for advise and was attacked as I've seen others attacked I would have left the site and not returned and probably would still be planning on breeding her. I've learned a lot over time. When I read the ones that are attacking I basically gloss over them, I don't "listen" because I'm too busy focusing on the tone of the reply. It's ok to disagree with someone and caution them on things they may want to do, just do it nicely. Most people don't have bad intentions, I didn't. We just need to be educated but we don't learn from people who talk down to us, judge us or attack us - we tune them out.

[BakersDozen]

Originally Posted by Tammyh

I disagree. When I got Bella I felt a little guilty about how much I paid for her so we thought we would breed her just once to offset some of the costs and keep one for ourselves. I was naive, we figured dogs/animals breed all of the time in the wild so what's the big deal right? Well, after reading lots of posts on this site and learning so much I've since changed my mind. I didn't realize the possible dangers of breeding a small dog. I would die if something happened to Bella! She's more important to me than offsetting her costs. Also, I've come to realize how important it is to maintain a certain standard in breeding. I've learned all of this by reading others posts which I really appreciate. But I have to say, had I come to this site and asked for advise and was attacked as I've seen others attacked I would have left the site and not returned and probably would still be planning on breeding her. I've learned a lot over time. When I read the ones that are attacking I basically gloss over them, I don't "listen" because I'm too busy focusing on the tone of the reply. It's ok to disagree with someone and caution them on things they may want to do, just do it nicely. Most people don't have bad intentions, I didn't. We just need to be educated but we don't learn from people who talk down to us, judge us or attack us - we tune them out.

What a nice experience! Shows that people learn from tactful education. I think it is very much normal to be able to respond well to kind counsel. For the most part, even the most rude comments on here are bring out correct points. It is a shame that the good information is presented in such a way as to almost ensure no one listens.

[BabyFidgette]

Originally Posted by khyorkies

Is this her breeders website? Yorkshire Terrier - Yorkie Puppies For Sale Denver Colorado


If so everyone is chewing her out for saying her female is a teacup. On the website of the breeder she bought from the breeder says that her yorkies are

Teacups up to $2500.00 Micro Teacup up to $3500.00.

So if she has no knowledge of the breed and the breeder she bought from told her that her puppy was a teacup then I guess that is why she thought her female was a teacup.

Look at those cages! http://www.queenyorkies-palace.com/i...o_we_are21.jpg

[BakersDozen]

Originally Posted by BabyFidgette

Look at those cages! http://www.queenyorkies-palace.com/i...o_we_are21.jpg

Many people use crates or pens like these for their babies when they are not out playing (like when we're at work, and for training, etc.) The presence of cages doesn't worry me. (Different story if the dogs were in them ALL the time).

[BabyFidgette]

Originally Posted by BakersDozen

Many people use crates or pens like these for their babies when they are not out playing (like when we're at work, and for training, etc.) The presence of cages doesn't worry me. (Different story if the dogs were in them ALL the time).

But this is a breeder's house. That's different. That's no better than a pet store.

[Sunnie]

Originally Posted by BabyFidgette

Look at those cages! http://www.queenyorkies-palace.com/i...o_we_are21.jpg

I am not sure if I would be too quick to judge this breeder.. and I will admit I didn't look at every photo... but this facility looks rather clean and well run to me.. NO.. it isn't the same as someone raising one or two yorkies in thier home, but I don't know that I would call this a puppymill either. It you look at THIS link, you can see more photos..
Index of /images

When I bred Sunshine with a show breeder's dog, she had several in her home loose, but also had crates such as these in an indoor garage converted to a kennel... very clean.. heated/air conditioned/ with a play area... and the door opened to the family room. and of course the females in heat and ready to whelp were in thier own seperate crates and the breeding males were in thier own seperate crates.. not mistreated.. NOT caged up 24/7... I would have to look at all the photos before saying this is not a good breeder

[WV~Yorkies]

The mother of my girl was 4 pounds and she had 4 healthy puppies.

I would talk to your vet.

I wish you luck!

[Sunnie]

from looking at more pics, it looks like puppies that are weaned are in the crates.. we bring home a new puppy and WE crate train.. so what is the difference. They appear to be well cared for.. in CLEAN crates.. they would NOT be clean if they were in them 24/7..

[cooperk]

I can't believe YT'rs called this new member's home to say that she was going to kill her baby if she bred her. What some (perhaps well intended) people miss is that by attacking someone like this they only succeed in making the attacker look like a nutcase.

How rude and invasive! Since my short time in this forum I have seen this happen way too many times. No matter how much we may disagree with someone, a controlled and pollite reply goes much further than a rude one.

Kindly educating this person would have done more positive things than attacking her.

Shame on whoever did this!

[Sunnie]

Originally Posted by cooperk

I can't believe YT'rs called this new member's home to say that she was going to kill her baby if she bred her. What some (perhaps well intended) people miss is that by attacking someone like this they only succeed in making the attacker look like a nutcase.

How rude and invasive! Since my short time in this forum I have seen this happen way too many times. No matter how much we may disagree with someone, a controlled and pollite reply goes much further than a rude one.

Kindly educating this person would have done more positive things than attacking her.

Shame on whoever did this!

OMG! That is totally uncalled for... someone should be very ashamed of themselves.

[BakersDozen]

Originally Posted by Sunnie

I am not sure if I would be too quick to judge this breeder.. and I will admit I didn't look at every photo... but this facility looks rather clean and well run to me.. NO.. it isn't the same as someone raising one or two yorkies in thier home, but I don't know that I would call this a puppymill either. It you look at THIS link, you can see more photos..
Index of /images

When I bred Sunshine with a show breeder's dog, she had several in her home loose, but also had crates such as these in an indoor garage converted to a kennel... very clean.. heated/air conditioned/ with a play area... and the door opened to the family room. and of course the females in heat and ready to whelp were in thier own seperate crates and the breeding males were in thier own seperate crates.. not mistreated.. NOT caged up 24/7... I would have to look at all the photos before saying this is not a good breeder

Right. I would find it very strange if a breeder did NOT have some method of training and restraining their dogs. I see no reason to condemn a breeder for doing the same thing owners do. It's not wrong to crate or pen a dog. (Like you, I feel differently about doing so 24 hours a day) Nor do I feel it is wrong to have a room of the house for a breeder's dogs. I don't even think it's wrong to have a separate outside building (properly heated/cooled, with play area, nice, etc.). Again, as long as they are allowed plenty of time to play loose and with plenty of socialization.