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Old 04-16-2008, 03:26 PM   #1
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I was just watching Judge Millian (sp?) and it was about "teacup" yorkies... A couple sued the breeder for coccidia and hypoglycemia (after 2 weeks) and for liver shunt (understandable)... I'm not even discussing the liver shunt... Thats a given.. But she ripped the breeder a new one saying he HAS to cover hypoglycemia and coccidia... I have 3 contracts and NONE of them cover these.. Bailey was hypoglycemic when she came home and I took care of it and kept her breeder updated but never even thought about asking for her to pay the vet bills.. And I wouldn't! Bailey and Bella also got coccidia when we went on a long trip.. No big deal, I gave them albon.. I just don't get it I guess... I didn't think coccidia and hypoglycemia were genetic defects...
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Usually a breeder offers a certain time period (usually 48-72) hours for a puppy to be taken to a vet to be checked out...physical exam, fecal, etc. Coccidia should have been checked for at that time, and if it was found at that point then the breeder should take care of it. But two weeks later...seems like the puppy probably got it while in the care of the new owners. So far as hypoglycemia - the breeder ought to keep a puppy until a minimum of 12 weeks (or until the puppy is eating and doing well on its own for a few weeks) to protect against this. After 12 weeks, most puppies aren't as at risk for that anymore. But ALL puppies are at risk for hypoglycemia and that's not the breeder's fault...the new owners should be told what to look for and what to do, but it is their responsibiliity to make sure their puppy doesn't get those symptoms. And if the puppy had liver shunt, well that explains the hypoglycemia..seems more like one issue to me. And of course liver shunt should be taken care of by the breeder. The breeder should pay for treatment UP TO the cost of the puppy or refund the purchase price and at least be there for support.
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I would venture to guess the judge has no knowledge of those particular issues and/or the breeder did not have a contract which specifically excluded them. In court...a written contract will ALWAYS outweigh any other circumstance...you can have a verbal conversation contrary to the written contract and it will not be considered...period.

Without a contract...the breeder should have provided specific documentation from a vet with detailed information on both. At least for the judge to consider....

That being said...remember while it's a "court case"...it's also television subject to entertainment value.

Btw, I personally know someone who went on one of these court shows...the amount awarded, if any..does not come out of anyone's pocket. It's paid by the show. Both parties are given a "vacation" of sorts...airfare, hotel stay, and a few hundred dollars spending money just for appearing.
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Old 04-18-2008, 10:21 AM   #4
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IF ALL BREEDERS WOULD BILE ACID TEST THE PUPPIES BEFORE SELLING THEN THEY WOULD HAVE TO DEAL WITH THE SICK PUPPY AND NOT OWNERS WHO PAY ENOUGH AS IT IS..........Yorkies are prone to livershunt and testing before selling is the proper thing to do for
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3. The puppy........if breeders found out they have this in their line then PERHAPS they would learn to not breed the sire and dam to each other again and not put the poor innocent puppy to sleep but pay for the surgery and place him free into a good home where the puppy deserves to have love and care and life.........my opinon only......

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I saw the show and I believe the Breeder had his own contract saying he didn't cover certain things. However, in his state it doesn't matter what his contract says. He is obligated to cover anything that makes the puppy unfit for sale and hypoglycemia, etc. makes a sick puppy and, therefore, unfit for sale. I don't remember what state he was in. Was it New York? I think they were from Brooklyn, but I can't remember. I noticed that the Judge referred to it as a "teacup" Yorkie also.
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IF ALL BREEDERS WOULD BILE ACID TEST THE PUPPIES BEFORE SELLING THEN THEY WOULD HAVE TO DEAL WITH THE SICK PUPPY AND NOT OWNERS WHO PAY ENOUGH AS IT IS..........Yorkies are prone to livershunt and testing before selling is the proper thing to do for
1. The breeders practice
2. The buyers
3. The puppy........if breeders found out they have this in their line then PERHAPS they would learn to not breed the sire and dam to each other again and not put the poor innocent puppy to sleep but pay for the surgery and place him free into a good home where the puppy deserves to have love and care and life.........my opinon only......

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You're right...if every breeder would BAT their puppies before sending them home, they would know in most cases if a puppy had a shunt or not...and probably save the future owner heartache (and protect the breeder from selling a puppy with a defect). It's an inexpensive test that could easily be added into the purchase price of the puppy and 12-16 weeks is fine to do a BAT. I'll ask that any puppy I plan to buy be BAT before I bring it home (and be sure to have the breeder's vet fax results straight to your vet so you get the actual results).
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