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NanaDtreasures · 04-07-2008, 08:42 AM

Can you help Puppies lil leg????
Allie had her puppies last night and when I got up this morning
I was picking them up. Checking tummys..all looked well.
But the biggest girls little back leg is messed up.
The bottom part of it kinda goes backwards.
I am wondering if it has something to do with her laying in vitro...Or is a deformity.
Its very flexible and I can move it to the right position.
Can this be fixed if I work with it therapy ?...Tape it..splint it?
I have no idea. Its not in ANY pain what so ever, and I dont want to put it down.
Of course when I take her to the vets in a few days I will ask them too.
But today I just made the appointment and I want to start now when bones are real soft if I can do anything for her.
I tried to zoom in on it this morning.I should have tried to get it without holding the leg.Its not showing how bad it is.My battery is charging
Thanks in advance everyone~!

matilda99 · 04-07-2008, 08:49 AM

The best thing would be to get to the vet, but I was just reading something similar about another breed, one of the large ones, sometines being born with their hind legs tooking twisted and many were put down in error before someone finally figured out it was a self-correcting thing...Don't do anything drastic...

lovelilly · 04-07-2008, 08:50 AM

Oh I hope someone can help you. Praying she is okay...

Mom to Hot Rod · 04-07-2008, 08:51 AM

I would probably call the vet asap. Like you said, the bones are soft. Good luck and congrats on the puppies.

lovelilly · 04-07-2008, 08:53 AM

Just found this link.... it is for kittens... but it looked similar. I didn't read through the entire post... but it looked like lots of good info!

http://www.showcatsonline.com/x/brac...d_hindlegs.htm

PrestigeousYT · 04-07-2008, 09:00 AM

I would print this page out that lovelilly posted and take it to the vet so he can help you approach this venture.
I have never ran into this but I have seen many different problems that breeders have had with legs etc. It is amazing that sometimes these things can be corrected but you need to work directly with your vet when you have something like this.
Best of luck and keep us updated
Deana
Prestigeous Yorkies

NanaDtreasures · 04-07-2008, 09:06 AM

Thanks for the link!!!
And I wil do that Deana
I called the vet have appointment for Wed.
Here..in the country where I live I am sure they would say put her down.
But I already know if I dont keep her, IF I dont get attached to her ..

someone who wants her even if shes not perfect.
I would never let them put her down. She healthy as can be.
And it is better even from last night. Last night it was flipped almost totally backwards. Thats why I'm thinking she was crowded in there and I can work with it.
The sooner the better.
Hoping someone has or knows someone who has dealt with it tells me the best way they did it until I get there Weds.
I couldnt find anything online..So thanks again!!!
You're all GREAT!!

matilda99 · 04-07-2008, 09:17 AM

http://www.bulldoginformation.com/In...Hind_Feet.html

PrestigeousYT · 04-07-2008, 09:21 AM

Quote:

Originally Posted by NanaDtreasures

Thanks for the link!!!
And I wil do that Deana
I called the vet have appointment for Wed.
Here..in the country where I live I am sure they would say put her down.
But I already know if I dont keep her, IF I dont get attached to her ..

someone who wants her even if shes not perfect.
I would never let them put her down. She healthy as can be.
And it is better even from last night. Last night it was flipped almost totally backwards. Thats why I'm thinking she was crowded in there and I can work with it.
The sooner the better.
Hoping someone has or knows someone who has dealt with it tells me the best way they did it until I get there Weds.
I couldnt find anything online..So thanks again!!!
You're all GREAT!!

You know thats why I said to print it out and take it with you, we had a pup born once and I fell asleep in between pups, this was a long delivery and when I awoke she had a pup and had chewed the tip of the foot and he was cold, appeared dead so we wrapped him up and Andy was going to bury him.
A bit later I heard a whimpering and low and behold this pup was alive. I took him to the vet for help and he suggested to put him down I said OH NO you don't understand this pup wants to live. I would not hear of him being put to death! He wanted to live and I felt horrible because I had dozed off and he went thru this.

Anyways he had one hind leg a bit shorter and not much of toes. He is now approaching 7 years and is the life of a lil older lady in a high rise his name is Riley as in Life of Riley.
So I understand all to well about the well lets put it down.

But when vets see we are educated on the fact that they can be helped they are more willing to help.

Deana
Prestigeous Yorkies

PrestigeousYT · 04-07-2008, 09:23 AM

Quote:

Originally Posted by matilda99

http://www.bulldoginformation.com/In...Hind_Feet.html

Another great post.
See how much we all learn from each other

Thanks for sharing

Deana
Prestigeous Yorkies

NanaDtreasures · 04-07-2008, 09:39 AM

Quote:

Originally Posted by PrestigeousYT

You know thats why I said to print it out and take it with you, we had a pup born once and I fell asleep in between pups, this was a long delivery and when I awoke she had a pup and had chewed the tip of the foot and he was cold, appeared dead so we wrapped him up and Andy was going to bury him.
A bit later I heard a whimpering and low and behold this pup was alive. I took him to the vet for help and he suggested to put him down I said OH NO you don't understand this pup wants to live. I would not hear of him being put to death! He wanted to live and I felt horrible because I had dozed off and he went thru this.

Anyways he had one hind leg a bit shorter and not much of toes. He is now approaching 7 years and is the life of a lil older lady in a high rise his name is Riley as in Life of Riley.
So I understand all to well about the well lets put it down.

But when vets see we are educated on the fact that they can be helped they are more willing to help. Deana
Prestigeous Yorkies

What a wonderful post~!!!!!!!
Thank you for sharing it with me and the rest ((((hugs))))
Will make everyone think before culling a less then perfect puppy.
What a little miracle Riley is.And now so loved!
I know of two of my cousins who have wanted a Yorkie, but cant afford one for years who will just LOVE this little girl.

Deana
Prestigeous Yorkies[/quote]

[/quote]Quote:
Originally Posted by matilda99
http://www.bulldoginformation.com/In...Hind_Feet.html [/quote]

Another great post.
See how much we all learn from each other
Thanks for sharing

Deana
Prestigeous Yorkies
I agree...Its not JUST about breeding....
We all learn so much here
And thank YOU Matilda99!!!!!

Susan123 · 04-07-2008, 09:49 AM

I've read recently about a couple of dogs having a bad back leg on the sick and emergency forum. They were referring to it as a straight leg. Don't know if it's the same as yours is showing, just wanted to tell you what I saw about a bad leg.

NanaDtreasures · 04-07-2008, 09:54 AM

I wanted to add...
That baby girls foot looks exactly like the first PIC of the kitten on the red on that site. More so then the pads being inverted like in the bulldogs site.
Thank you both again.
I am going to start working with this little girl even before the vets Weds.
Any success stories here on YT?
Thanks again.

Woogie Man · 04-07-2008, 10:08 AM

We have a little girl that was born pretty much as you described in your original post, only in her case it was both legs. I could tell when she first crawled that something wasn't right. I waited to go to the vet until we had the tails docked (at 3 days) . She said the bones were more like cartilage at that point so let's wait until her first shot for an x-ray. Well, I did as she said and when the x-ray was done she had twisted femurs. By that point she looked to the eye like she has severe luxated patellas and the vet said there was nothing to be done for her. We kept her (Bijou) and today she is the happiest little girl you will ever meet. She will be 2 years old this July and doesn't let her handicap get in her way. Last December I had a chance to speak with a vet that is an orthopaedic specialist and he said there was a chance her condition could have been lessened had her legs been wrapped to coax them to straighten out while the bones were still soft. It's too late for Bijou but with your little baby maybe there is hope if she is seen promptly by a specialist. Don't expect miracles but if the condition can be lessened at all it will benefit your baby. Do not wait. There is a small window of time available while the bones are somewhat pliable. I do hope for a good outcome for your little one.

feminvstr · 04-07-2008, 10:09 AM

Debbi once again I have never seen this before this will be a learning experience that I hope you share every detail with us...

all the best for those little ones

04-07-2008, 08:50 AM	#3
lovelilly Donating YT Addict Join Date: Jan 2006 Location: Henderson CO Posts: 637	Oh I hope someone can help you. Praying she is okay... __________________ We our yorkie family Tucker, Lilly & Scout! More info on me and my family http://www.myspace.com/99824468

04-07-2008, 08:51 AM	#4
Mom to Hot Rod Donating YT 3000 Club Member Join Date: Jan 2008 Location: MD Posts: 3,371	I would probably call the vet asap. Like you said, the bones are soft. Good luck and congrats on the puppies. __________________ Hot Rod Maggie May Always in my Zoe Proud member of the CrAzYcLuB ......"The Little Gentlemen's Club"

04-07-2008, 08:53 AM	#5
lovelilly Donating YT Addict Join Date: Jan 2006 Location: Henderson CO Posts: 637	Just found this link.... it is for kittens... but it looked similar. I didn't read through the entire post... but it looked like lots of good info! http://www.showcatsonline.com/x/brac...d_hindlegs.htm __________________ We our yorkie family Tucker, Lilly & Scout! More info on me and my family http://www.myspace.com/99824468

04-07-2008, 09:06 AM	#7
NanaDtreasures YT 1000 Club Member Join Date: Dec 2007 Location: Lil Bitty Goat farm in Ohio Posts: 1,297	Thanks for the link!!! And I wil do that Deana I called the vet have appointment for Wed. Here..in the country where I live I am sure they would say put her down. But I already know if I dont keep her, IF I dont get attached to her .. someone who wants her even if shes not perfect. I would never let them put her down. She healthy as can be. And it is better even from last night. Last night it was flipped almost totally backwards. Thats why I'm thinking she was crowded in there and I can work with it. The sooner the better. Hoping someone has or knows someone who has dealt with it tells me the best way they did it until I get there Weds. I couldnt find anything online..So thanks again!!! You're all GREAT!! __________________ Debbi ~ I Yahoo as Nanadebstreasures Follow the 3 R's~~~ Respect for self...Respect for others ...Responsibility for all your actions

04-07-2008, 09:17 AM	#8
matilda99 No Longer a Member Join Date: Mar 2008 Location: nh Posts: 22	here's the piece I mentioned.... http://www.bulldoginformation.com/In...Hind_Feet.html

04-07-2008, 08:49 AM	#2
matilda99 No Longer a Member Join Date: Mar 2008 Location: nh Posts: 22	The best thing would be to get to the vet, but I was just reading something similar about another breed, one of the large ones, sometines being born with their hind legs tooking twisted and many were put down in error before someone finally figured out it was a self-correcting thing...Don't do anything drastic...

04-07-2008, 09:00 AM	#6
PrestigeousYT YT 1000 Club Member Join Date: Oct 2006 Location: WV Posts: 1,466	I would print this page out that lovelilly posted and take it to the vet so he can help you approach this venture. I have never ran into this but I have seen many different problems that breeders have had with legs etc. It is amazing that sometimes these things can be corrected but you need to work directly with your vet when you have something like this. Best of luck and keep us updated Deana Prestigeous Yorkies

04-07-2008, 09:49 AM	#12
Susan123 YT 1000 Club Member Join Date: Aug 2005 Location: Florida Posts: 1,385	I've read recently about a couple of dogs having a bad back leg on the sick and emergency forum. They were referring to it as a straight leg. Don't know if it's the same as yours is showing, just wanted to tell you what I saw about a bad leg.

04-07-2008, 09:54 AM	#13
NanaDtreasures YT 1000 Club Member Join Date: Dec 2007 Location: Lil Bitty Goat farm in Ohio Posts: 1,297	Any success stories here on YT? I wanted to add... That baby girls foot looks exactly like the first PIC of the kitten on the red on that site. More so then the pads being inverted like in the bulldogs site. Thank you both again. I am going to start working with this little girl even before the vets Weds. Any success stories here on YT? Thanks again. __________________ Debbi ~ I Yahoo as Nanadebstreasures Follow the 3 R's~~~ Respect for self...Respect for others ...Responsibility for all your actions Last edited by NanaDtreasures; 04-07-2008 at 09:56 AM.

04-07-2008, 10:08 AM	#14
Woogie Man YT 500 Club Member Join Date: Feb 2008 Location: Mississippi Posts: 679	We have a little girl that was born pretty much as you described in your original post, only in her case it was both legs. I could tell when she first crawled that something wasn't right. I waited to go to the vet until we had the tails docked (at 3 days) . She said the bones were more like cartilage at that point so let's wait until her first shot for an x-ray. Well, I did as she said and when the x-ray was done she had twisted femurs. By that point she looked to the eye like she has severe luxated patellas and the vet said there was nothing to be done for her. We kept her (Bijou) and today she is the happiest little girl you will ever meet. She will be 2 years old this July and doesn't let her handicap get in her way. Last December I had a chance to speak with a vet that is an orthopaedic specialist and he said there was a chance her condition could have been lessened had her legs been wrapped to coax them to straighten out while the bones were still soft. It's too late for Bijou but with your little baby maybe there is hope if she is seen promptly by a specialist. Don't expect miracles but if the condition can be lessened at all it will benefit your baby. Do not wait. There is a small window of time available while the bones are somewhat pliable. I do hope for a good outcome for your little one.

04-07-2008, 10:09 AM	#15
feminvstr Donating YT 3000 Club Member Join Date: Jan 2005 Location: Portland Oregon Posts: 4,398	Debbi once again I have never seen this before this will be a learning experience that I hope you share every detail with us... all the best for those little ones __________________ Kimberly