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Woogie Man · 03-16-2008, 11:36 AM

I was wondering how many of you have Clarkwyn's Jubilee Eagle (CeDe Higgins' sire) in your dog's pedigree? He is an ancestor to one of my dogs and seems to be in many breeders lines that I've found that post pedigrees on their web sites. If he got around as much as it seems, he was one lucky dog

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Ladyhawk · 03-16-2008, 11:49 AM

You'll see alot of him because he was the grandsire to both Rothby's Renegade and Caraneal's Charged and Ready through Jentre's Charger of Mistangay. These two studs were some of the most widely used in the US and Canada.

Woogie Man · 03-16-2008, 12:01 PM

Yes, all 3 dogs you mentioned are also in my dog's pedigree. I was asking about him because he is the one furthest back in the line.

YorkieRose · 03-16-2008, 12:07 PM

Jubie contributed greatly to the breed..his owner was critized for allowing some not so perfect bitches to be bred to him...Ruth's theory was to help others improve and Jubie could do it.

Woogie Man · 03-16-2008, 12:16 PM

Very interesting tidbit of information, YorkieRose.....thanks for posting.

bjh · 03-16-2008, 01:14 PM

One of my foundation females had Clarkwyn's Jubilee Eagle on her 4th generation twice. It looks like they did a half brother, half sister breeder with Jubilee and produced Ch. Ru-Jac's Blues In The Night who produced Ch. Glenariff Left So Blue.

mypreciouspups · 03-16-2008, 01:35 PM

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Originally Posted by YorkieRose

Jubie contributed greatly to the breed..his owner was critized for allowing some not so perfect bitches to be bred to him...Ruth's theory was to help others improve and Jubie could do it.

well I admire this breeder for standing her ground when she new she had a good stud... for this is probably why so many have done well.. that is so nice to see..

I wish I could find some one to help me with my girl, that would take the chance to see what we could get.. she is a nobody.. but with the right stud. I would love to see what I would get.. please others do not shoot me for saying this.. it could be just a simple dream, without dreams we have nothing...

Woogie Man · 03-16-2008, 01:39 PM

Both my sire and dam have Jubilee Eagle in their backgrounds. The sire's pedigree is also heavily weighted with Ju-Gene, Durrer and Heskethane lines. They had their first litter in January (2 girls, 1 boy). I don't have a real mentor relationship with the breeders but plan on visiting the dam's breeder with my pups as she is an experienced show breeder so she may help me evaluate them. At what age can pups be evaluated for show potential? Is 3 months old too soon?

Ladyhawk · 03-16-2008, 02:00 PM

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Originally Posted by Woogie Man

Both my sire and dam have Jubilee Eagle in their backgrounds. The sire's pedigree is also heavily weighted with Ju-Gene, Durrer and Heskethane lines. They had their first litter in January (2 girls, 1 boy). I don't have a real mentor relationship with the breeders but plan on visiting the dam's breeder with my pups as she is an experienced show breeder so she may help me evaluate them. At what age can pups be evaluated for show potential? Is 3 months old too soon?

First evaluation should be made at 8 weeks old. My mentor evaluates again at 3 months before we put them in puppy matches. Find the DVD the Puppy Puzzle, it will help out alot. If you can find a puppy match close by they are invaluable. Even if you don't show your puppies you can have a judge or an exhibitor/breeder evaluate them.

topknot · 03-16-2008, 02:31 PM

Often in the past you will find common ancestors due to the area in which they lived. Now with travel made so easy - that is not always the case.
T.

YorkieRose · 03-16-2008, 03:48 PM

So much is different now..and since the computer age, the dog world is incredibly small.....you would have thought we lived in the dark ages, sticking close to home and breeding within our circle of breeder friends ...it used to take months for gossip to get from coast to coast..now it goes around the world in minutes..LOL

03-16-2008, 11:36 AM	#1
Woogie Man YT 500 Club Member Join Date: Feb 2008 Location: Mississippi Posts: 627	Most Prolific Stud Ever? I was wondering how many of you have Clarkwyn's Jubilee Eagle (CeDe Higgins' sire) in your dog's pedigree? He is an ancestor to one of my dogs and seems to be in many breeders lines that I've found that post pedigrees on their web sites. If he got around as much as it seems, he was one lucky dog .

03-16-2008, 11:49 AM	#2
Ladyhawk YT 2000 Club Member Join Date: Oct 2006 Location: Virginia Posts: 2,305	You'll see alot of him because he was the grandsire to both Rothby's Renegade and Caraneal's Charged and Ready through Jentre's Charger of Mistangay. These two studs were some of the most widely used in the US and Canada. __________________ Tami ladyhawkyorkies.com

03-16-2008, 12:07 PM	#4
YorkieRose YT 4000 Club Member Donating Member Join Date: Jul 2004 Location: South Florida Posts: 7,207	line Jubie contributed greatly to the breed..his owner was critized for allowing some not so perfect bitches to be bred to him...Ruth's theory was to help others improve and Jubie could do it. __________________ Pat, Kate, Becca and Pinkkee Prim

03-16-2008, 02:31 PM	#10
topknot YT 1000 Club Member Join Date: Jun 2005 Location: GA Posts: 1,959	Often in the past you will find common ancestors due to the area in which they lived. Now with travel made so easy - that is not always the case. T. __________________ T.

03-16-2008, 03:48 PM	#11
YorkieRose YT 4000 Club Member Donating Member Join Date: Jul 2004 Location: South Florida Posts: 7,207	breeding So much is different now..and since the computer age, the dog world is incredibly small.....you would have thought we lived in the dark ages, sticking close to home and breeding within our circle of breeder friends ...it used to take months for gossip to get from coast to coast..now it goes around the world in minutes..LOL __________________ Pat, Kate, Becca and Pinkkee Prim

03-16-2008, 12:01 PM	#3
Woogie Man YT 500 Club Member Join Date: Feb 2008 Location: Mississippi Posts: 627	Yes, all 3 dogs you mentioned are also in my dog's pedigree. I was asking about him because he is the one furthest back in the line.

03-16-2008, 12:16 PM	#5
Woogie Man YT 500 Club Member Join Date: Feb 2008 Location: Mississippi Posts: 627	Very interesting tidbit of information, YorkieRose.....thanks for posting.

03-16-2008, 01:14 PM	#6
bjh Donating YT 500 Club Member Join Date: Aug 2007 Location: Warren, Texas Posts: 2,602	One of my foundation females had Clarkwyn's Jubilee Eagle on her 4th generation twice. It looks like they did a half brother, half sister breeder with Jubilee and produced Ch. Ru-Jac's Blues In The Night who produced Ch. Glenariff Left So Blue.

03-16-2008, 01:39 PM	#8
Woogie Man YT 500 Club Member Join Date: Feb 2008 Location: Mississippi Posts: 627	Both my sire and dam have Jubilee Eagle in their backgrounds. The sire's pedigree is also heavily weighted with Ju-Gene, Durrer and Heskethane lines. They had their first litter in January (2 girls, 1 boy). I don't have a real mentor relationship with the breeders but plan on visiting the dam's breeder with my pups as she is an experienced show breeder so she may help me evaluate them. At what age can pups be evaluated for show potential? Is 3 months old too soon?