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03-11-2008, 05:43 AM | #1 |
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| C- Section question.... I've noticed a quite a few pregnancies seem to end up requiring a c-section and I wondered...... How many do you consider too many before the dam is spayed?....Once a c- section is done are all the following pregnancies c-sections?.....Do you consider this procedure to be hard on the dam to recover from?....I've tried to google this subject but was having no luck.....
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03-11-2008, 06:01 AM | #2 |
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| IF one of my girls has to have a section, she is spayed on the spot. I will not put them thru it again but I know there are breeders that do with good results. |
03-11-2008, 06:09 AM | #3 |
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| Hi Dee, yes I have seen people who do spay them on the first one, I'm not a breeder but I think if I was I would do that too then I see ones who say their dam went in for her c-section again....that seems like it would be hard on her considering how small her uterus is an all the scar tissue that forms. Thanks Dee....
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03-11-2008, 06:12 AM | #4 |
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| In over ten years of breeding Yorkies I have had only 1 c-section and that female was 5 lbs and she had one large singleton puppy in her. She later had puppies naturally. Two me it would depend on the female and the circumstances behind the c-section. I think the majority of the c-sections are being caused by breeders breeding females that are too small (under 5 lbs). I only know of one breeder that had multiply c-sections on their dogs and their vet told them that after 3 c-sections they should be spayed because of all the scar tissue that builds up. For me, I would say two strikes your out. I do not breed females under 5 lbs and preferably I like them close to 7 lbs but that is just me. |
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03-11-2008, 06:56 AM | #7 |
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| sections More importantly, is the reason for the c-section. Sometimes it is a matter of bad luck..one large puppy, weak contractions, puppy stuck sideways in the canal..on and on...so I give a bitch two chances to free whelp...many will have a natural birth the second time..some have gone on to be an excellent brood bitch..others needed another section and were spayed. AND..some times a novice breeders may panic and the vet goes along withteh decision..remember many vets feel a section is the best quickest and best solution when in dount....soem sections are not necessary..then teh second time the breeder have more knowledge. |
03-11-2008, 07:08 AM | #8 |
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| I agree with Pat...It really depends on the mom and the reason for the section...We prefer to have a mom spayed at a later date if we can because the uterus is engorged with blood at this time and their is more blood loss to spay at the same time as the section...Of course, if mom has a damaged uterine horn from labor than we would opt for the spay... We have had mom's that have had puppies with malpresentations that have required a section to go on and deliver with the next preg on their own...We have also had mom's that have had trouble with enertia/dystocia, need a section, the enertia/dystocia gets worse with the next preg, and then we have retired them... I think you have to evaluate each mom , one pregnancy at a time, along with your vet... ~Laura
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03-11-2008, 07:28 AM | #9 |
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| Spaying at the time of the CSection is way to risky. I would not do that due to the high risk of bleeding out. I use to do that until I learned how risky this was to my girl and I would hate myself if I lost one due to spay at time of CSection. I finally got brave and bred a girl after a CSection (skipped a heat) and I was scared to death, she has had a couple of litters naturally after that and it was one big boy that caused the CSection. Deana Prestigeous |
03-11-2008, 07:36 AM | #10 |
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| I wasn't really sure what some of the answers would be but it was something I've thought about.....I just got to wondering how many was too many but as some of you have pointed out there are many variables.....
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03-11-2008, 06:13 PM | #12 |
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| We have actually spoken to our vet about this!! It really depends on each c-section and what goes on. If the uterus is in good shape and the female recovers then you can go 3-4 c-sections and they do not think it is harder on the female although it is HIGHLY advisable to skip a heat with a c-section (how you would not WANT to is beyond me - she would need time to heal!). IF there is a lot of scaring then it is the best interest to spay after the pups are weaned. So this could happen on your first c-section - it really depends all on the female and the reasons of the section. If you spay at the time of bith..there is more bleeding, a higher rate of no milk coming in and rejection of the puppies. Our old vet said they actually see people coming in every 6 months with the same dog to get c-sections for years. I feel SOOO bad for those poor girls!! I wouldn't even think they would be healed enough for it. SOO sad!
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