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Old 01-31-2008, 09:46 PM   #1
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Default Breeding.. ups and downs???

okay. ive never bred before. ive just started to do research about females and heat cycles. ive checked out debbiejensen.com and read a TON other websites. im pretty sure i want to breed pheobe. i know it wont be for about a year or so from now.. or so im guessing.. she will be 6 months old on the 8th of february. shes 4lbs1oz. im hoping she hits the 5 lb mark.. and praying for at least 5lb5oz. shes got a great backround and is a wonderful dog. i would love to help her bring puppies into this world. so im just trying to learn as much as i can.

so for all those yorkie breeders on YT... what are the upsides of breeding???? the down sides???

also.... when to breed her???? i know not to even think about it on her first heat. but is second heat okay? and when does that usually occur??(( i know its always different, just looking for a general time frame)) how many pups are usually in the first litter?? does anyone have a link to a good thread about a "first time..first litter" story??

any info is great.. thanks guys!!!
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sounds like you are doing some research!! Please make sure your girl is a good representative of the breed. Go to some shows and look around. Talk to breeders or judges and have them look at her. Check her for health problems like liver shunts, collapsing trachea and slipping pattellas. How is her bite and conformation? You will also eed to do this with the stud you choose.

The "ups" of breeding are having a healthy beautiful litter with hopes of showing at least one. I love to see their personalities develope. They are just so darned cute!!!! Having the mom come through whelping with flying colors and she is a great mom. Thats a big plus!!!


The "downs" of breeding are: Needing a c-section. Having your female die while having a c-section. Loosing a litter. Having a mom with no milk or one that refuses to take care of the puppies. Having a mom that gets eclampsia.
Thats just to name a few!!

Hope that helps!!! Just a few things to think about.
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Old 02-01-2008, 04:48 AM   #3
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to add to the above, watching your poor beautiful girl go through morning sickness. the sad look on their face. praying everyday for a smooth delivery. praying that who every adopts your pet, doesn't breed her ( if you can find a vet to have them spay or neutered befor leaving the home is great)

it is very very difficult to place yorkies in homes now since the industry is flooded with yorkies.
you can only do the best you can to find the best home possible but sometimes people are so smooth.
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Old 02-01-2008, 05:21 AM   #4
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A good time frame is around 18 months. It's not always the second heat, but usually it is. If she has 2 heats within 12 months, wait until the third.

The biggest con is the emotional side, seeing puppy's go, having puppies die, mom possibly dieing, potential buyers are not always easy to deal with.

Then there's the finiancial portion it can get costly if it's done correctly.

The pros are absolutely wonderful. Making a perfect match, placing puppies where they belong and making families happy with a beautiful, healthy dog.
The joy of rearing puppies. So many more...I love everything about whelping and rearing puppies minus the cons.
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to add to the above, watching your poor beautiful girl go through morning sickness. the sad look on their face. praying everyday for a smooth delivery. praying that who every adopts your pet, doesn't breed her ( if you can find a vet to have them spay or neutered befor leaving the home is great)

it is very very difficult to place yorkies in homes now since the industry is flooded with yorkies.
you can only do the best you can to find the best home possible but sometimes people are so smooth.
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cons- losing a puppy, the sleepless nights, praying for a smooth delivery, letting the pups goto their new homes

pros-helping bring pups into this world! it was amazinG!!! i dont know that i would do it again, but it was an amazing process to witness!
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Cons:
- loosing a pup
- sleepless nights
- barely breaking even on costs
- males humping and spraying once used to breed
- no time to yourself
- females bleeding when in heat since they are not spayed
- risking moms life to deliver pups
- finding them proper homes is difficult
- expense and risk of c-sections
- tons of testing to assure the pups are healthy
- eclampsia risks
- open fontanelle's
- cleft pallette pups
- luxating patella's
- collapsed trachea's
- liver shunts
- lots of paperwork for proper litter registration
- tons of research to be done
- tons of vet bills and visits
- high risk of cancer from un-spayed and un-neutered adults
There are way more cons to pro's IMO, however if your into breeding for the love of it I can say it is very rewarding.

Pro's:
- providing a healthy happy well socialized puppy to a loving new family
- puppy breath
- breeding to improve the breed
- breed for the enjoyment of it and not for the money
- moms who can free whelp and deliver without incident can occassionally be done
- proper breeding can be very rewarding

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Breeding dogs can be very rewarding but I does have its ups and downs as everyone has stated above. Before you breed you have to be committed through the whole process. From the time the female is bred, pups are born and they leave your home you must be totally committed to give the mom and her babies all the attention and proper care they need. It is very time consuming and you need to be prepared to be home almost all the time to be sure mom and babies are okay.
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Everyone has given great info so far. I'll just add you should be committed for the puppies’ whole life and be willing to keep a puppy if there is anything majorly wrong with them health-wise. I know a breeder who had feed some high quality dog food that was later recalled and even though there seemed to be nothing wrong with the pups or mom, she still kept them to make sure they were properly taken care of if anything did happen.

And first litters are usually small (1-2 pups) and will be most often be larger if they have another litter.
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wow. a lot of cons! the pros sound great though!! shes right on breed standard. both of her parents are show dogs.i beleive she is a great dog to breed. i have NO IDEA about where the stud will be from.. but i have a long time yet.. and a lot more learning to do before i decide if i really am going to breed her. and if she doesnt end up being at least close to 5 1/2 lbs im not going to breed her.

thanks so much for all the information. off to do more research!!!
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I think the pros are obvious And thats the whole wonderful part and what drives us to do what we do. I feel you need to be 100% devoted to your pups and dogs to do this.

I've managed to achive most of the cons in only 3 litters over these years. EVERY delivery so far has ended up in an emergency clinic.

I've had 2 c-sections, I've had a chi pup with a cleft that I have to nurse 24/7 for almost 3 months around the clock and kept her , had to go for oxy shots to get going on two litters, had a mom go into cardiac arrest on the table and her heart stop ........It seems I've had it all from the get go. Plus I'm waaaaaaaaay no where close in breaking even in expenses.

But I understood this going into this and I'm up to handling whatever god throws at me.

BUT, my love, devotion, and determination is pushing me forward. I'm prepared for what ever comes my way and I love it so much that I see this as a life time venture.

Good luck in whatever you choose to do. RESEARCH-RESEARCH and more RESEARCH. You can NEVER learn to much. I learn something new everyday

Good luck to you!!!
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Your breeder would be a great place to start for looking for a stud. They might have a good one not related or if they show can probably give you some good names of other people to contact.
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