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PrestigeousYT · 03-28-2008, 02:31 PM

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Originally Posted by Brookef18

Her breeder doesn't dock the tails any more. Sadie's brother is going to be a show dog with his tail. My breeder knows some judges won't like it but she is going to show him any way. These pups come from good blood lines I'm told and the brother seems to be show quality.
Chewy's tail is docked and it's about an inch or so... with hair falling down over it, it looks like a fountain!!!

I love them both... The docked tail can be very cute, Saidie's tail is also very cute... she wages it all the time.

Sadie is adorable

Deana
Prestigeous Yorkies

MyFairLacy · 03-28-2008, 02:44 PM

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Originally Posted by PrestigeousYT

I don't understand why you would want a petition to stop tail docking that would be like the people who want theirs docked telling you that you cannot have them undocked.
It doesn't bother me that some people like the long tails, I have had a few with long tails. What does bother me is someone wanting to make their opinions of undocked tails be the law and make that choice for me.
We show and we do dock our tails for show and I have not yet had one Yorkie that had problems from being a dog with a docked tail.
We are lucky that we have choices and the more choices we try to take away from each other the more miserable we will become.
Thats just the way I feel about it.

Deana
Prestigeous Yorkies

Freyja · 03-28-2008, 02:46 PM

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Originally Posted by Susan123

Allrighty then. I was addressing the original question about showing with a docked tail. No offense but, it really doesn't matter to me what anybody believes. Everybody has an opionion.

No offense taken. I really could not careless if everyone thinks I'm wrong because as you said everyone has an opinion. I was just saying that I personally am against docking and I'm not trying to make everyone agree with me. As someone who wishes to show in the future I was just trying to get more information on the chances for an undocked tail Yorkshire Terrier's chances of being successful in the show ring.

Freyja · 03-28-2008, 03:04 PM

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Originally Posted by diva pup

Well thank you for the reading material but I was not implying anything towards you

others had answered with their opinions too so it was a generalization. There was certainly no need to be rude, as I stated it was just my opinion, did you think yours was the only one that counted?

I was not the only one that agreed that you were. Yes, others had answered with their opinion but didn't imply on what research I had or had not done as you did. I tried to be diplomatic not rude towards you. I could not careless about your opinion as I have read some of your threads and know what kind of person I'm dealing with here. I never said my opinion is the only one that counts just because you might believe that about your opinions does not mean everyone else does.

baby03 · 03-28-2008, 03:10 PM

Quite the contrary lots of people share Diva Pups views!!

Freyja · 03-28-2008, 03:15 PM

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Originally Posted by txshopper73

I don't think Diva implied that you're uneducated in the docking aspect. I did not get that at all with her reply. Don't jump the gun so quick.

I didn't jump the gun quickly I'm not that kind of person. If you see the time between diva pup's post and my reply you can see a huge time gap. I re-read diva pup's reply a few times over and over to make sure I was reading correctly and from seeing old threads and posts from diva pup I saw what kind of person I was dealing with and replied as I saw fit.

PrestigeousYT · 03-28-2008, 03:24 PM

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Originally Posted by Freyja

I was not the only one that agreed that you were. Yes, others had answered with their opinion but didn't imply on what research I had or had not done as you did. I tried to be diplomatic not rude towards you. I could not careless about your opinion as I have read some of your threads and know what kind of person I'm dealing with here. I never said my opinion is the only one that counts just because you might believe that about your opinions does not mean everyone else does.

I wish they would too yorkiegirl2. Is there nothing that can be done to stop docking? I mean can't there be a petition to stop docking? I know that some people might think that the dogs look better or prettier with docked tails or their ears cut but its not fair that we do that to a living creature just because we want them to look a certain way. Its cruel and I know that its done when they are just a few days old so there wont be any complications but still its painful for them.

Above are your post in this thread and it does appear when you ask
I mean can't there be a petition to stop docking people take that as
you see this as your way of thinking about tail docking is the only way and you want to see it as a law to be illegal to dock.
I think thats where the confusion is.
I myself don't care if you want your dogs tails docked or undocked but I want to make my own choice in the matter is what I am saying and others too.

Deana
Prestigeous Yorkies

Sugar's Mom · 03-28-2008, 03:25 PM

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Originally Posted by Freyja

I know that in the United States docking is still allowed however I'm not planing on living here forever. So I wont be able to show a dog with a docked tail in the countries I'm interested in. Can't I show a dog with full tail here?

Starting in May, you CAN show a yorkie with a full tail in UKC. It will not be considered a fault at all. Not AKC tho. I show in both venues a little.

Freyja · 03-28-2008, 03:32 PM

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Originally Posted by Yorkiekids

Unfortunately you can't show a Yorkie here with a tail.

The UKC is allowing undocked tails now.

Freyja · 03-28-2008, 03:48 PM

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Originally Posted by Brooklynn

You can show a yorkie here with a tail but don't be surprised if you don't win or your excused from the ring

It's not a disqualification it's a fault just like a bad bite, bad top line, ect...
Our standard only has a DQ for color.
I prefer a docked tail as long as it's done at a very young age not waiting until they are older and if the standard calls for a docked tail then I'm good with it but if the standard were to change for an undocked tail I could live with that also

Donna Bird
Brooklynn's Yorkshire Terriers

Thank you for your post and I was sad to read your last thread on breeder talk. I will be sending you a private message to ask you something as not to make you reply to me here.

dudley1984 · 03-29-2008, 04:15 PM

Personally, I don't like docking and lately only do it under pressure when I think a litter is highly likely to produce a show prospect. Since I also don't particularly care for showing, I may stop doing that too...Last trip to the vet those puppies cried and bled and I swore I'd never dock again. You can show before most US judges with undocked tails, but brace yourself for a lot of grief from breeders who are stubbornly clinging to the notion that the tail spoils the whole look of the dog---can't remember the exact way I alst heard it put...Anyway, it is barbaric and illegal in most civilized countries.

Woogie Man · 03-30-2008, 11:25 AM

I don't have any strong feelings, pro or con, regarding tail docking. I do think it's interesting that some countries consider it a barbaric practice while they make no laws regarding circumcising little human boys.

MyFairLacy · 03-30-2008, 11:36 AM

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Originally Posted by Woogie Man

I don't have any strong feelings, pro or con, regarding tail docking. I do think it's interesting that some countries consider it a barbaric practice while they make no laws regarding circumcising little human boys.

exactly...or even piercing babies' ears..

PrestigeousYT · 03-30-2008, 01:34 PM

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Originally Posted by dudley1984

Personally, I don't like docking and lately only do it under pressure when I think a litter is highly likely to produce a show prospect. Since I also don't particularly care for showing, I may stop doing that too...Last trip to the vet those puppies cried and bled and I swore I'd never dock again. You can show before most US judges with undocked tails, but brace yourself for a lot of grief from breeders who are stubbornly clinging to the notion that the tail spoils the whole look of the dog---can't remember the exact way I alst heard it put...Anyway, it is barbaric and illegal in most civilized countries.

I would consider it barbaric if someone put a rubberband around the tail and let it rott off. That's bararic.

Deana
Prestigeous Yorkies

03-28-2008, 03:10 PM	#35
baby03 Donating YT 2000 Club Member Join Date: Apr 2006 Location: us Posts: 2,253	Quite the contrary lots of people share Diva Pups views!! Last edited by baby03; 03-28-2008 at 03:11 PM.

03-29-2008, 04:15 PM	#41
dudley1984 BANNED! Join Date: Dec 2007 Location: salem nh Posts: 81	about docking---great question !!!! Personally, I don't like docking and lately only do it under pressure when I think a litter is highly likely to produce a show prospect. Since I also don't particularly care for showing, I may stop doing that too...Last trip to the vet those puppies cried and bled and I swore I'd never dock again. You can show before most US judges with undocked tails, but brace yourself for a lot of grief from breeders who are stubbornly clinging to the notion that the tail spoils the whole look of the dog---can't remember the exact way I alst heard it put...Anyway, it is barbaric and illegal in most civilized countries.

03-30-2008, 11:25 AM	#42
Woogie Man YT 500 Club Member Join Date: Feb 2008 Location: Mississippi Posts: 679	I don't have any strong feelings, pro or con, regarding tail docking. I do think it's interesting that some countries consider it a barbaric practice while they make no laws regarding circumcising little human boys.