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tonyismybabyboy · 01-26-2008, 03:37 PM

Hi!
I had to put my YT down the second week in December due to kidney failure, he was diagnosed the first week in November and given 3 weeks to live. He was able to hang on with the help of subQ fluids and a low protein diet (made by mommy from scratch). The breeder says that she is going to honor the contract and refund what I paid for him.
My question is, how long is a reasonable time to wait for the refund? The whole experience put me back well over what I paid for him, not to mention the exaustion from staying with him 24/7 and the emotional drain... I just want this to be over..

Jillian

kosoma · 01-26-2008, 06:05 PM

Most guarantees require written verification from vet that there is a life-threatening congenital defect....and then refund will be given (or another puppy, etc). Assuming anything the guarantee required has been done, I would see no reason for delay in receiving the refund. Some do say that the breeder reserves the right for autopsy, or second opinion, etc. Could this be why they are waiting?

Breny · 01-26-2008, 06:08 PM

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Originally Posted by tonyismybabyboy

Hi!
I had to put my YT down the second week in December due to kidney failure, he was diagnosed the first week in November and given 3 weeks to live. He was able to hang on with the help of subQ fluids and a low protein diet (made by mommy from scratch). The breeder says that she is going to honor the contract and refund what I paid for him.
My question is, how long is a reasonable time to wait for the refund? The whole experience put me back well over what I paid for him, not to mention the exaustion from staying with him 24/7 and the emotional drain... I just want this to be over..

Jillian

I just wanted to say I'm so sorry for your loss

How sad .

kosoma · 01-26-2008, 06:11 PM

Where are my manners??? I forgot to say that I am so sorry this happened, it must have really been exhausting--both mentally and physically. I hope you can get this resolved so you can have some measure of closure.

scrapindee · 01-26-2008, 09:45 PM

So sorry for your loss. Please let us know if you get resolution.

ryorkies · 01-27-2008, 12:54 PM

I am so sorry for your pain and I hope your breeder comes through for you with a quick and speedy resolution.

Hugs to you.....

YorkieRose · 01-27-2008, 01:21 PM

I am very sorry to hear about the loss of your Yorkie...I feel a refund should be given the day it is asked for...unless the breeder is waiting for some sort of vet reports etc...but once it is settled as to the breeder being responsible, then the money should be returned as quickly as they accepted it...

tonyismybabyboy · 01-27-2008, 04:28 PM

the breeder knows that it was congenital, her and her vet both have all tony's blood work and vet reports, have each spoken with my vets so everyone was on the same page. she said she could refund the money when she sold a pup...
i don't know how i feel about that... how long should i wait?

kosoma · 01-27-2008, 05:20 PM

In that case, with all requirements being met, I feel that the $ should be refunded immediately. Unless the guarantee states that $ will be refunded after the sale of another pup (which would be weird), offering a guarantee means that she should be able to back it, and that means having access (even a loan) to the funds to do so. It is not fair, nor ethical IMO, to make you wait until she sells another pup. I'm not sure it's even legal if it contradicts her guarantee.
I'm sure she didn't give you the pup on the condition that you would pay when you can; the same should hold true for the guarantee.

tonyismybabyboy · 01-28-2008, 11:29 AM

just to let everyone know, the breeder does advertise on this website

yoyo27 · 01-28-2008, 11:36 AM

Well sorry for you loss you have to be really upset over this. I hope everything gets worked out for you.

Patti · 01-28-2008, 01:28 PM

I am intererested as well. I had to put Dixie to sleep on the 17th and called the breeder and she said she would be in touch. I haven't heard a word. I think it is so wrong that someone in this position has to bug the breeder after all we have already gone through.

YorkieRose · 01-28-2008, 02:37 PM

The money is not the breeders to spend until the guarantee expires...that is why a breeder needs a bank account for problems...the breeder could be hit by a truck tomorrow and you have lost your money...what does the contract say..?
When you return a toaster to Walmartt, do they tell you they will refund your money when they sell another toaster...is is eactly the same principle...this is why a breeder shoudl not breed for money..they buyer gets screwed more times then not...

littlewhip · 01-28-2008, 02:45 PM

Iam very sorry for your loss

hope things wok out for you.

kosoma · 01-28-2008, 02:47 PM

And even IF the breeder is in it as a business....no good business would treat its customers that way. Either way, business or not, it's not right.

01-26-2008, 03:37 PM	#1
tonyismybabyboy BANNED! Join Date: Aug 2006 Location: DeKalb, IL Posts: 173	Question for breeders on your contracts (also posted in General section) Hi! I had to put my YT down the second week in December due to kidney failure, he was diagnosed the first week in November and given 3 weeks to live. He was able to hang on with the help of subQ fluids and a low protein diet (made by mommy from scratch). The breeder says that she is going to honor the contract and refund what I paid for him. My question is, how long is a reasonable time to wait for the refund? The whole experience put me back well over what I paid for him, not to mention the exaustion from staying with him 24/7 and the emotional drain... I just want this to be over.. Jillian

01-26-2008, 09:45 PM	#5
scrapindee Donating YT 2000 Club Member Join Date: Nov 2005 Location: Redlands Posts: 2,762	So sorry for your loss. Please let us know if you get resolution. __________________ Scrapindee www.houseofwags.com Check for updates!! Team Furry and the Biewers

01-27-2008, 12:54 PM	#6
ryorkies R Positively Priceless Donating Member Join Date: Jul 2007 Location: Northeast Posts: 2,611	I am so sorry for your pain and I hope your breeder comes through for you with a quick and speedy resolution. Hugs to you..... __________________ Janie and the Br dy Bunch Penelope, Tobias, Lily, Tulsa & Brady

01-27-2008, 01:21 PM	#7
YorkieRose YT 4000 Club Member Donating Member Join Date: Jul 2004 Location: South Florida Posts: 7,207	loss I am very sorry to hear about the loss of your Yorkie...I feel a refund should be given the day it is asked for...unless the breeder is waiting for some sort of vet reports etc...but once it is settled as to the breeder being responsible, then the money should be returned as quickly as they accepted it... __________________ Pat, Kate, Becca and Pinkkee Prim

01-27-2008, 04:28 PM	#8
tonyismybabyboy BANNED! Join Date: Aug 2006 Location: DeKalb, IL Posts: 173	yah, that's what i thought the breeder knows that it was congenital, her and her vet both have all tony's blood work and vet reports, have each spoken with my vets so everyone was on the same page. she said she could refund the money when she sold a pup... i don't know how i feel about that... how long should i wait?

01-26-2008, 06:05 PM	#2
kosoma Inactive Account Join Date: Nov 2007 Location: Oklahoma Posts: 157	Most guarantees require written verification from vet that there is a life-threatening congenital defect....and then refund will be given (or another puppy, etc). Assuming anything the guarantee required has been done, I would see no reason for delay in receiving the refund. Some do say that the breeder reserves the right for autopsy, or second opinion, etc. Could this be why they are waiting?

01-26-2008, 06:11 PM	#4
kosoma Inactive Account Join Date: Nov 2007 Location: Oklahoma Posts: 157	Where are my manners??? I forgot to say that I am so sorry this happened, it must have really been exhausting--both mentally and physically. I hope you can get this resolved so you can have some measure of closure.

01-27-2008, 05:20 PM	#9
kosoma Inactive Account Join Date: Nov 2007 Location: Oklahoma Posts: 157	In that case, with all requirements being met, I feel that the $ should be refunded immediately. Unless the guarantee states that $ will be refunded after the sale of another pup (which would be weird), offering a guarantee means that she should be able to back it, and that means having access (even a loan) to the funds to do so. It is not fair, nor ethical IMO, to make you wait until she sells another pup. I'm not sure it's even legal if it contradicts her guarantee. I'm sure she didn't give you the pup on the condition that you would pay when you can; the same should hold true for the guarantee. Last edited by kosoma; 01-27-2008 at 05:22 PM.

01-28-2008, 11:29 AM	#10
tonyismybabyboy BANNED! Join Date: Aug 2006 Location: DeKalb, IL Posts: 173	just to let everyone know, the breeder does advertise on this website

01-28-2008, 11:36 AM	#11
yoyo27 Donating YT 1000 Club Member Join Date: Dec 2007 Location: Missouri Posts: 1,624	Well sorry for you loss you have to be really upset over this. I hope everything gets worked out for you. __________________ Zoie, Calie & Cinnamon :I love: my little ones http://www.dogster.com/dogs/657546

01-28-2008, 01:28 PM	#12
Patti Donating YT 10000 Club Member Join Date: Oct 2005 Location: Illinois Posts: 18,304	I am intererested as well. I had to put Dixie to sleep on the 17th and called the breeder and she said she would be in touch. I haven't heard a word. I think it is so wrong that someone in this position has to bug the breeder after all we have already gone through. __________________ Cali Pixie Roxie : Maya's Mom RIP my sweet Dixie girl 1/17/08 http://callipuppyscastle.bravehost.com/index.html

01-28-2008, 02:37 PM	#13
YorkieRose YT 4000 Club Member Donating Member Join Date: Jul 2004 Location: South Florida Posts: 7,207	money The money is not the breeders to spend until the guarantee expires...that is why a breeder needs a bank account for problems...the breeder could be hit by a truck tomorrow and you have lost your money...what does the contract say..? When you return a toaster to Walmartt, do they tell you they will refund your money when they sell another toaster...is is eactly the same principle...this is why a breeder shoudl not breed for money..they buyer gets screwed more times then not... __________________ Pat, Kate, Becca and Pinkkee Prim Last edited by YorkieRose; 01-28-2008 at 02:39 PM.

01-28-2008, 02:45 PM	#14
littlewhip My six pack Donating Member Join Date: Jul 2006 Location: wiith my furbabys Posts: 7,766	Iam very sorry for your loss hope things wok out for you. __________________ Charlie, Joey, Shy, Jasp,Molly Mae & Karleigh

01-28-2008, 02:47 PM	#15
kosoma Inactive Account Join Date: Nov 2007 Location: Oklahoma Posts: 157	And even IF the breeder is in it as a business....no good business would treat its customers that way. Either way, business or not, it's not right.