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spruitt7 · 01-18-2008, 03:24 PM

This is Riley's breeder, but I've never talked to anyone else who has got a pup from her. Just wondering what everyone's views are on her. Here is her site.

http://www.coalcreek-kennel.com/

Another reason I'm posting this is because when I start looking for another Yorkie, I may go with her again.

diva pup · 01-18-2008, 03:34 PM

JMO... But I think you need to look further. In addition some of those puppies seem to have health issues.

Ladyhawk · 01-18-2008, 04:01 PM

I'm glad you had a good experience with her the first time but her website definitely contains some red flags. First she gives full registration with all of her puppies. That means that she doesn't care if the pup is a good representation of it's breed, if it's free of genetic defects, if you have any idea how to breed or what a yorkie that conforms to the standard should look like. When the pup is born the decision is made that it is free to be bred. To me that is very irresponsible as some pups should not be bred and should just get to be pets. We as humans have the responsiblity of deciding what is best for the continuation of the breed and that takes alot of study. She refers to teacups, a person peeve as I don't think we should be trying to make yorkies into chihuahuas with coat. No where does she mention that her 8 week old darlings can't leave home until they are 12 weeks old. I'd do a bit of comparison shopping and check out YTCA's guidelines. You're bound to find you a winner.

spruitt7 · 01-18-2008, 04:39 PM

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Originally Posted by Ladyhawk

I'm glad you had a good experience with her the first time but her website definitely contains some red flags. First she gives full registration with all of her puppies. That means that she doesn't care if the pup is a good representation of it's breed, if it's free of genetic defects, if you have any idea how to breed or what a yorkie that conforms to the standard should look like. When the pup is born the decision is made that it is free to be bred. To me that is very irresponsible as some pups should not be bred and should just get to be pets. We as humans have the responsiblity of deciding what is best for the continuation of the breed and that takes alot of study. She refers to teacups, a person peeve as I don't think we should be trying to make yorkies into chihuahuas with coat. No where does she mention that her 8 week old darlings can't leave home until they are 12 weeks old. I'd do a bit of comparison shopping and check out YTCA's guidelines. You're bound to find you a winner.

I read somewhere that she got in trouble for her living environment for the pups also. This was after I got Riley. I didn't really start realizing some of her bad points till after. The only pictures I received of Riley before I got him were him sitting on a rusted cage. I didn't pay attention to the pictures then, but now that I go back and look there are some major problems. The picture I recieved of the parents was horrible. They were sweaty and dirty. In the background of Riley's pictures, there were these big rusted cages, I guess the same type that he was sitting on.

She didn't even send me Riley's shot records. She just wrote on a piece of paper his vaccinations. She told me that the vet vaccinated him and I found out today that she gave him the shots herself, which included a rabies shot at 12 weeks. GAH! Now that I think about all these, shes a terrible breeder. I doubt I'll go with her again. I'm glad I've learned alot since I got Riley.

spruitt7 · 01-18-2008, 04:42 PM

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Originally Posted by diva pup

JMO... But I think you need to look further. In addition some of those puppies seem to have health issues.

Really?? What do u mean by health issues? I'm not that great at spotting these things.

diva pup · 01-19-2008, 09:46 AM

Look at the puppies...The little fawn pug is very sickly looking, just compare his littermates. And those poor "dachsund" pups

I am by no means a dachsund expert (these look more like Bassett mixes) but aside from that, the pups eyes are very unhealthy looking and they are EXTREMELY thin for their age (note the portruding breast bone on the 2nd pup

) Puppies at that age should be chubby and HAPPY not scared and sickly looking, just look at all those sad little eyes

I am glad your first baby is happy and healthy but I sure wouldn't chance it again. JMHO

P.S. I THINK YorkieRose is knowledgable about dachsunds( sp?) maybe she will see this, I am quite curious as to what she thinks.

diva pup · 01-19-2008, 10:07 AM

Here is a doxen puppy about the same age that is coming from a reputable breeder. Do you see the difference?

http://www.diagramdachshunds.com/dogsforsale.htm

red98vett · 01-19-2008, 10:09 AM

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Originally Posted by diva pup

Look at the puppies...The little fawn pug is very sickly looking, just compare his littermates. And those poor "dachsund" pups

I am by no means a dachsund expert (these look more like Bassett mixes) but aside from that, the pups eyes are very unhealthy looking and they are EXTREMELY thin for their age (note the portruding breast bone on the 2nd pup

) Puppies at that age should be chubby and HAPPY not scared and sickly looking, just look at all those sad little eyes

I am glad your first baby is happy and healthy but I sure wouldn't chance it again. JMHO

P.S. I THINK YorkieRose is knowledgable about dachsunds( sp?) maybe she will see this, I am quite curious as to what she thinks.

I agree here - The little yorkies didn't look very happy at all and their eyes are all wet and shouldn't be.

watch out on that site - it tried to download a trojan on my computer

lisatodd · 01-19-2008, 10:24 AM

it did the same thing to me.....

McAfee has automatically blocked and removed a Trojan.

About this Trojan
Detected: JS/Downloader-AUD (Trojan)
Location: C:\Documents and Settings\Owner\Local Settings\Temporary Internet Files\Content.IE5\SXPVY2WX\cltdv[1].js

Trojans appear as legitimate programs but can damage valuable files, disrupt performance, and allow unauthorized access to your computer.

Patti · 01-19-2008, 10:27 AM

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Originally Posted by red98vett

I agree here - The little yorkies didn't look very happy at all and their eyes are all wet and shouldn't be.

watch out on that site - it tried to download a trojan on my computer

I agree and it tried to download a Trojan on my computer too TG I just got my security all reinstalled the other day.

livingdustmops · 01-19-2008, 10:28 AM

This is scary - she got her hands on some Biewers also. Very sad.

spruitt7 · 01-19-2008, 11:50 AM

How do you know if its drying to download a Trojan??? I don't think its ever done that with me. Well I refuse to go back to the site to find out. Lol.

Now about her breeding, is there anything I can do? Since her pups look unhealthy and shes already gotten in trouble once for her environment.

Oh no!! Look at this picture... Ughhh I don't think I could ever put an animal in a cage like that. :-(

http://www.coalcreek-kennel.com/imag...APoomom004.jpg

JaLaYorkieGirl · 01-19-2008, 11:15 PM

I think it is great that you want to add to your family...but I agree with everyone else, keep looking. It sounds like you already had your reservations about her...listen to your gut!

Ines3185lyorkie · 01-20-2008, 03:32 AM

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Originally Posted by Ladyhawk

I'm glad you had a good experience with her the first time but her website definitely contains some red flags. First she gives full registration with all of her puppies. That means that she doesn't care if the pup is a good representation of it's breed, if it's free of genetic defects, if you have any idea how to breed or what a yorkie that conforms to the standard should look like. When the pup is born the decision is made that it is free to be bred. To me that is very irresponsible as some pups should not be bred and should just get to be pets. We as humans have the responsiblity of deciding what is best for the continuation of the breed and that takes alot of study. She refers to teacups, a person peeve as I don't think we should be trying to make yorkies into chihuahuas with coat. No where does she mention that her 8 week old darlings can't leave home until they are 12 weeks old. I'd do a bit of comparison shopping and check out YTCA's guidelines. You're bound to find you a winner.

You said it all

Gingergirlsmom · 01-20-2008, 05:17 AM

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Originally Posted by spruitt7

How do you know if its drying to download a Trojan??? I don't think its ever done that with me. Well I refuse to go back to the site to find out. Lol.

http://www.coalcreek-kennel.com/imag...APoomom004.jpg

Your security program will tell you. Mine alerted me the second I clicked on the site. I hope that it hasn't already happened to your computer, not sure how you find out now. Maybe someone else here will know.

Good luck finding a better breeder!

01-18-2008, 03:24 PM	#1
spruitt7 Donating YT Addict Join Date: Aug 2007 Location: Chicago Posts: 750	Has anyone heard of this breeder?/ This is Riley's breeder, but I've never talked to anyone else who has got a pup from her. Just wondering what everyone's views are on her. Here is her site. http://www.coalcreek-kennel.com/ Another reason I'm posting this is because when I start looking for another Yorkie, I may go with her again. __________________ Stephanie Mommy to Riley Proud Member of the Little Gentleman's Club

01-18-2008, 03:34 PM	#2
diva pup BANNED! Join Date: Mar 2005 Posts: 1,139	JMO... But I think you need to look further. In addition some of those puppies seem to have health issues. Last edited by diva pup; 01-18-2008 at 03:37 PM.

01-18-2008, 04:01 PM	#3
Ladyhawk YT 2000 Club Member Join Date: Oct 2006 Location: Virginia Posts: 2,409	I'm glad you had a good experience with her the first time but her website definitely contains some red flags. First she gives full registration with all of her puppies. That means that she doesn't care if the pup is a good representation of it's breed, if it's free of genetic defects, if you have any idea how to breed or what a yorkie that conforms to the standard should look like. When the pup is born the decision is made that it is free to be bred. To me that is very irresponsible as some pups should not be bred and should just get to be pets. We as humans have the responsiblity of deciding what is best for the continuation of the breed and that takes alot of study. She refers to teacups, a person peeve as I don't think we should be trying to make yorkies into chihuahuas with coat. No where does she mention that her 8 week old darlings can't leave home until they are 12 weeks old. I'd do a bit of comparison shopping and check out YTCA's guidelines. You're bound to find you a winner. __________________ Tami ladyhawkyorkies.com

01-19-2008, 10:24 AM	#9
lisatodd Little Boogers Donating Member Join Date: Feb 2006 Location: virginia beach, va Posts: 4,460	it did the same thing to me..... McAfee has automatically blocked and removed a Trojan. About this Trojan Detected: JS/Downloader-AUD (Trojan) Location: C:\Documents and Settings\Owner\Local Settings\Temporary Internet Files\Content.IE5\SXPVY2WX\cltdv[1].js Trojans appear as legitimate programs but can damage valuable files, disrupt performance, and allow unauthorized access to your computer. __________________ lisa lisa and the cult jam yorkies

01-19-2008, 10:28 AM	#11
livingdustmops Donating YT 500 Club Member Join Date: Nov 2005 Location: Colorado Posts: 2,810	This is scary - she got her hands on some Biewers also. Very sad. __________________ Cindy & The Rescue Gang Why do you think they call them Yorkshire Terrors!

01-19-2008, 09:46 AM	#6
diva pup BANNED! Join Date: Mar 2005 Posts: 1,139	Look at the puppies...The little fawn pug is very sickly looking, just compare his littermates. And those poor "dachsund" pups I am by no means a dachsund expert (these look more like Bassett mixes) but aside from that, the pups eyes are very unhealthy looking and they are EXTREMELY thin for their age (note the portruding breast bone on the 2nd pup ) Puppies at that age should be chubby and HAPPY not scared and sickly looking, just look at all those sad little eyes I am glad your first baby is happy and healthy but I sure wouldn't chance it again. JMHO P.S. I THINK YorkieRose is knowledgable about dachsunds( sp?) maybe she will see this, I am quite curious as to what she thinks.

01-19-2008, 10:07 AM	#7
diva pup BANNED! Join Date: Mar 2005 Posts: 1,139	Here is a doxen puppy about the same age that is coming from a reputable breeder. Do you see the difference? http://www.diagramdachshunds.com/dogsforsale.htm

01-19-2008, 11:50 AM	#12
spruitt7 Donating YT Addict Join Date: Aug 2007 Location: Chicago Posts: 750	How do you know if its drying to download a Trojan??? I don't think its ever done that with me. Well I refuse to go back to the site to find out. Lol. Now about her breeding, is there anything I can do? Since her pups look unhealthy and shes already gotten in trouble once for her environment. Oh no!! Look at this picture... Ughhh I don't think I could ever put an animal in a cage like that. :-( http://www.coalcreek-kennel.com/imag...APoomom004.jpg __________________ Stephanie Mommy to Riley Proud Member of the Little Gentleman's Club Last edited by spruitt7; 01-19-2008 at 11:52 AM.

01-19-2008, 11:15 PM	#13
JaLaYorkieGirl YT 500 Club Member Join Date: May 2007 Location: Ohio Posts: 993	I think it is great that you want to add to your family...but I agree with everyone else, keep looking. It sounds like you already had your reservations about her...listen to your gut! __________________ ~ Jackie ~ JaLa Yorkshire Terriers ~ "Quality is never an accident..."