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12-28-2007, 12:33 PM | #1 |
YT Addict Join Date: Dec 2007 Location: Alabama
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| Breeder pair? Hi, I am new. I have found a ad of someone near me that has a breeder pair for sale due to a divorce. The female is 5yo and 5# the male is 2yo and 4#. The female is house broken and is indoor, but says the male had rather be outside. Do any of you keep any or your dogs outside all the time? Do you think this is ok if they have the proper facilities? I am really only interested in a older house broken female but I am willing to take both of them and build the facilities for the dog that like to be outdoors to keep him warm. I am just wanting to find out views from other people bofore I jump right on this. Thank You |
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12-29-2007, 07:51 AM | #2 |
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| With proper facilities this might be ok...but proper facilities means something heated and cooled, just like a house would be. (Unless you are in a climate where you don't need to heat and cool) It would have to be VERY secure (not only he can't get out, but also something else can't get in) And it would mean keeping him socialized too, which would be a bit more difficult in that situation, esp. if he had to stay inside there all the time. I have two boys right now (pugs) that do prefer to be outside (they love to run) and although everyone says pugs are not outside dogs I have never had a problem with this. They have a very secure yard and shelter, and come in at night to sleep (and whenever the weather is very bad). However, I would hesitate to place a four pound Yorkie in the same situation. I think I would find out exactly why he would rather be outside. I wonder if they say this because he marks inside? Or is just not quite completely housetrained yet? |
12-29-2007, 08:02 AM | #3 |
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| Too many thoughts.... If marking is the problem, neutering the male should take care of this. You don't mention if you would be planning to breed them. But if so.... Would you be taking these two mainly because they are a easy way to breed? Consider whether they are really suited for breeding. Also consider whether you are adequately prepared for breeding and the resulting litter. This is a LOT more work (and sometimes heartache) than most realize. I don't know you and your situation, so am not saying this to be rude or discouraging. I have just seen a lot of people think they will "make back" the cost of their dogs by breeding....and are not prepared at all for what that means. |
12-29-2007, 08:35 AM | #4 |
YT Addict Join Date: Dec 2007 Location: Alabama
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| Not to worry. I appreciate your opinion. I am willing to learn all I can before I jump into anything. I am a researcher. I have already done research on the yorkie as a pet and realize it takes much time for these little guys. I want to do this as a hobby. And this is not something that is going to happen over night I realize as I am in no hurry. I had posted in the general boards and they informed me that 5yo should be retired and would probly be good as pet only. I really am not ready for a pair, only a female about a year old, but it dosent hurt to inquire kwim. Any advice good or bad I am willing to here it. I am a big girl lol I can take it . And when I set my mind to something , I usually follow through and will do a good job at it. I think the biggest mistake people make in life sometimes is not trying or letting people tell you can not or should not do this or that. |
12-29-2007, 08:36 AM | #5 |
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| No, it's never o.k. to leave a dog outside all the time. Once you take a dog into your family that's exactly what they are...part of the family, they need the companionship, love and attention just like a child. Maybe he says he likes it outside better because he was never properly trained and it was easier for the owner to keep him outside. Maybe if he were neutered he would actually enjoy being inside with everyone else...if he was a breeding male he was probably marking so he was put outside. If it were me and I wasn't ready to make the commitment to work with him to be an inside dog then I wouldn't take him...let him go to someone who will. Also, most breeders retire their females at 5 so she should also be spayed and kept as a pet...IMHO. Last edited by my2boyz; 12-29-2007 at 08:37 AM. |
12-29-2007, 08:43 AM | #6 | |
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Yikes! I missed that the female is 5 years old...glad others read more carefully than I did. You have a great attitude...doing all your research first is the way to go. I agree with your last sentence. It's not that no one inexperienced should breed (otherwise how would anyone gain experience?). It's that no one should breed without long hours of research and, preferably, a good mentor. | |
12-29-2007, 08:52 AM | #7 |
YT Addict Join Date: Dec 2007 Location: Alabama
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| I look forward to learning more form you guys. Thanks a bunch! See how much I have already learned. Im sure Ill have more questions in the comming days. |
12-29-2007, 10:09 AM | #8 |
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| male The reason the male is outdoors is because he marks in the house...don't fall for it being his choice...unless the yard is full of girls in heat...LOL |
12-29-2007, 10:19 AM | #9 |
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| My opinion is that even though you are wanting to be a hobby breeder, it's still the utmost importance to breed to improve the breed. Find you a good mentor, research the lines. Know what they produce. Make sure they are a good representation of the breed, have had all their testing, etc.
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12-29-2007, 09:50 PM | #10 |
Donating YT 2000 Club Member | I would pass on the pair--this does not sound that good for me. A mentor is a good place to start. |
12-30-2007, 08:20 PM | #11 |
Donating YT 3000 Club Member Join Date: Sep 2007 Location: Florida/Canada
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| I would pass on the breeding pair myself. I do not like that she says the male is outside at all. I do not think it is his choice at all. I have never heard of a yorkie in my 18 years of having them wanting to be outside, I could not imagine mine outside like that. Mine sleep with us too. pooh's mum |
12-30-2007, 08:30 PM | #12 |
and Bernie's mom too!" Donating Member Join Date: Nov 2005 Location: Pennsylvania
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| I applaud you for doing your research. There are a lot of knowledgeable and helpful breeders here. I think some of the best research you could do is to read through their posts, ask questions, LISTEN to the answers, and find a reputable breeder to learn from before you even think about beginning. I read a really good post earlier tonight, I'll try to find it and post the link. Here's the link. As a non-breeder I thought this was one of the clearest and most concise descriptions I have read about why you should do your research and breed for the improvement of the breed that I have ever come across. Good luck. http://www.yorkietalk.com/forums/sho...5&postcount=19
__________________ Ginger Bernie Fun Kitty Last edited by Gingergirlsmom; 12-30-2007 at 08:33 PM. |
12-31-2007, 06:43 AM | #13 |
YT Addict Join Date: Dec 2007 Location: Alabama
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| Yea, I read that to, thought it was a great post also. That should make anybody think about becoming a breeder. I would not want anybody to get a baby from me that had any of those types of problems. I am so about doing the right thing by other people. I cant imagine selling a sick dog, or being a scammer for peoples hard earned money. |
12-31-2007, 07:55 PM | #14 |
Donating YT 1000 Club Member Join Date: Oct 2006 Location: Texas
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| A couple of my yorkies actually do like the outside but of course they are inside dogs and all 9 live in the house. We have a doggie door they can come in and out during the day when we are home. My show dog Radar loves running the fence with the neighbor dogs! But I don't think they know what staying outside all the time means because they love where they sleep in the house! LOL |
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