Couple plead guilty to hoarding 170 yorkies Couple pleads guilty to hoarding 170 Yorkies in California I posted about this a while back after the story came out On Monday, the couple pleaded guilty to two felony counts of animal neglect. They face three years of probation plus counseling and, as part of a plea deal, can't own pets for a decade. They'll also transfer ownership of their 31-foot motorhome to the Humane Society as restitution, per San Diego's KGTV. The San Diego Humane Society rescued 170 dogs from the couple in all — 185 if you count puppies the pregnant dogs later birthed — and at least 168 of those found homes through adoption, the Union-Tribune reported. Three dogs were euthanized because of poor health |
There are some crimes against the innocent that are so terrible, the victims so horribly abused with such depraved indifference that tens of years in jail likely cannot ever hope to compensate or give those victims any kind of justice. But in this case, a good 7 - 10 years(25 if I were judge)might just go a long way toward keeping that pair of monsters from getting their hands on another dog, at least while in jail. Won't happen but if there ever were a robust jail sentence in need of two criminals to serve it............ |
There had to be mental issues there Something similar to the Hoarders tv show |
Probably true. Hadn't read the story B4, picture said it all, a dog suffering terribly, unable to seek help and unless those two cannot discern right from wrong and assist in their own defense, they made many conscious decisions along the way to create and perpetuate that hell and belong in cells for their crimes against those helpless babies they made suffer. I see he's retired cop of 72, she's 10 years younger so maybe he's developed stress-related PTSD, dementia or Alz., she's just given up trying to cope with everything or is a frank enabler. Wonder if she was in that tiny 31 foot motor home when she crammed it with 46 dogs(!) and tried to flee the state! Obviously they weren't in the business of selling any dogs with 170 of them so that does speak to neglect and hoarding, repeatedly putting their interests above those of their helpless victims. Even when the hoarders are in bad shape themselves, somehow none of them I've seen on TV or news stories ever seemed as lacking in all the basic needs as their tiny victims. They all manage to have their recliners, beer, ciggies, A-C, phones & TV! |
Just looking a that pic I am speechless. Thank god most of them have found loving homes and will be doted on, and give them something they never had which is LOVE and a LIFE. |
If you've ever watched hoarders on tv, I think you would understand. There is something wrong with their mental capacity. I've got a friend that's a hoarder. He is aware of it and always says he's going to clean his place up . Doubtful it happens.. He even has three houses as well as a church next to one of them |
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How hoarders can choose to keep adding to their numbers of living victims while quite deliberately ignoring their broken limbs, infected wounds, open sores, eyes matted shut, animals who can't even defecate due to matted fecal material, driven mad with fleas, living in leaking, cold/ stifling, filthy pens with five other animals, all starving for affection, speaks to something beyond mental illness. It rather speaks of a need to victimize others, watch them suffer as they control them; and when keeping those animals requires such deliberately cold-blooded and heartless indifference to their pain and misery, I lose most feeling of pity for a mentally ill person that is also filled with that kind of evil need to cause and watch the utterly helpless suffer. Hoard all one wants if one can't get or refuses the help needed but when one victimizes, observes yet prevents the utterly helpless, living animals purposefully amassed, kept from having even basic needs as one strives for one's own self-gratification, satisfaction and happiness, in my mind, that person is not merely mentally ill but fosters a vile, horrific streak of evil as well. I doubt most mentally ill hoarders chose to willingly victimize their very own animals. |
I agree |
Hoarding We have recently experienced two hoarders in rentals. One was a thing hoarder with piles of all sorts of things and when that wasn't enough began accumulating animals of different kinds. Cats, dogs, birds. All neglected. The dogs, we were told, would forage through piles of other hoarded stuff for food. Under the house became a litter box. Carpet was ruined. Rehoming was difficult. The person we were later told is bi-polar and schizophrenic and basically his family members became either involved or enablers. The other was a person who justified her hoarding as being a "rescue." We have actually seen this in other situations too. She set up "kennels" in the garage, in the foyer, on decks for german shepherds. Feces, food were never cleaned up. The dogs were not groomed and literally a foot of compacted fur was cleaned out from under a deck. They weren't taken out for pottying so male dogs used the walls. Flies, ugh. When dogs weren't enough she added cats. She had a whole walk-in closet of cat litter boxes that were rarely changed. She left windows cracked so they crawled in and out. She added horses. They were underfed and so destroyed barn stalls, fencing, etc. As eviction wore on we discovered she wanted to add foster children to her hoarding mix. So, so sick. This person moved from property to property in a rural area leaving a trail of destruction. How? She was a liar and con extraordinaire. There were others who fancied themselves as rescuers who acted as enablers. Law enforcement does not have a lot of resources to address this. And the Humane Society can only do so much. In our one case, law enforcement would not enter the property because the german shepherds were dangerous, Humane Society did not want to get involved. And the law defaults in some states to the tenant. It's very difficult for property owners who have renters, neighbors, and the poor animals. It's insidious. Like eating disorders, a lot of the behavior is hidden (initially) and evolves into a critical problem. And the options for people with this problem to acquire animals are many. And when it's finally dealt with it's very difficult to rehome the animals, many of which need significant care and rehabilitation. The sheer number of yorkies in this case demonstrates how far the behavior can go before being addressed. It's just sad. So sad. |
The smell would be overwhelming:( |
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The smell is overwhelming, makes you gag, and only complete removal of saturated materials gets rid of the odor. Kilz paint will seal less damage spots. Saturated cement takes extreme chemicals. Wood decking may have to be replaced. Even dirt may have to be dug out and replaced near living areas. We were so appreciative of the contractors and handymen that helped us. They wore hazmat suits and ventilator masks. You can't imagine crawling into a crawlspace that was allowed to become a litter box or whole rooms infected with pet feces, urine and dander. We paid them but we really owe them a debt of gratitude. I didn't even mention the fleas and rodents. Fleas have become resistant to the most common sprays so we had to find a company that used newer sprays. Diatomaceous earth is bad stuff and I would not recommend using it. It didn't work and can't be removed. Flea bombs or foggers should never be used. They cause the fleas to flee behind areas that the fogger can settle on making the extermination even harder. It was a month's long process. Rodents love mishandled pet food. So, when it was left open, dropped behind and under decks, etc. rodents take up residence. You can't use DeCon because the rodents will die in crawlspaces, inside insulation where they like to nest, and other unseen places and create a death smell that permeates everything. Once the infestation happens, your best bet is to find a specialist who will set pet and child safe traps on a continuing basis until there is no more evidence of critters and can help you seal on the entry points. Fly problems will lessen after you clean up the mess but even those will stick around until there is better 'bait' somewhere else. A lot of fly traps had to be deployed to prevent hatching. |
OMG :mad:. Unreal. There should be a special kind of jail for people who hoard animals - they should stuff the humans into tight cages with each other so they can experience what they forced upon other innocent creatures. :( |
You have to be mentally unstable to have lived like that |
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Oddly, they kind of live that way anyway. They create their own cage by the mess that surrounds them. Whatever the mental condition is that allows the behavior seems to ignore their own living condition. Quote:
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In the cases we experienced, the "intent" of the one person who was ready to collect foster children, too was definitely evil. Truly a criminal mind. |
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