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Old 11-30-2011, 05:28 PM   #1
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Default Another example of PETA

Please give to your local shelters where it will actually do some good.

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This is a shock and so sad to me I so did not know ....
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All the monies celebrities raise for this charity and they do not care for the animals left in their care? Amazing. I bet there are other animal rescues/charities that could really benefit from the kind of publicity and fund-raising that this organization receives from the celebrity world.
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i've always known that HSUS and PETA are there to give "rights" to animals basically making animals have a legal right to live without being domesticated, farmed, or hunted. "domesticated" would mean that if they had it their way in the words of Wayne Pacelle himself, "Would like to never see another dog or cat born" and basically doesn't want us to "own" animals since they have the right to a life without captivity or being domesticated or owned by a human.

neither group financially supports shelters or rescues or does that much work in those fields themselves. they are BIG political groups that only have one main agenda. raising money to lobby in politics and try to create animals "rights" the same as women did back in the day to create "women's rights" it's a bit much if you ask me. (not women's rights those were wondeful, but animals get real here people they don't have the ability to vote and be active in their own rights)

they are also against all forms of farming and hunting which if you grew up in rural MO you would see how damaging that would be to those of us that live off of small farms (not cruel to their lifestock) and hunters who respect their game with a clean kill practice and of course my father who makes his sole living on taxidermy or giving hunters a beautiful replica of the animal they worked so hard to hunt and take and make them a "trophy" on the wall of the hunter to celebrate and cherish the memory of that day. i know it sounds terrible to someone that doesn't understand, but trust me that i was raised to respect animals and that taxidermy was an art and not a disrespect to the life and body of the animal.

anyways that's my rant on both HSUS and PETA. they are not there for the right reasons, they are there to cause drama, make crazy unrealistic laws in favor of rights for all animals, and to make tons of money for themselves.

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While euthanizing animals is a sad thing....what are shelters supposed to do with animals no one wants?

My local shelters are currently filled to capacity and are refusing to take in animals. Who is producing these unwanted dogs? Who isn't spaying/neutering their pets? Who is releasing un-altered pets to run the streets? These are the people I would like to see punished.
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While euthanizing animals is a sad thing....what are shelters supposed to do with animals no one wants?

My local shelters are currently filled to capacity and are refusing to take in animals. Who is producing these unwanted dogs? Who isn't spaying/neutering their pets? Who is releasing un-altered pets to run the streets? These are the people I would like to see punished.
that's all part of the problem too. bad breeders and no ethics or laws to prevent overpopulation of pets. it's not PETA that helps with this it's you and me who refuse to buy from or support those pet stores, puppy mills and willy nilly breeders.
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Here is the other perspective of why PETA euthanizes: (warning: may be too GRAPHIC for some)

Why We Euthanize | Ingrid Newkirk Blog | Blog.IngridNewkirk.com


Why We Euthanize, Part II (Warning: Graphic Photo) | peta2 Blog

Then also, it helps to read the Asilomar Accords to see how shelters/organizations decide whether or not to euthanize: Asilomar Accords Home

It's also helpful to know that Peta Kills Animals is owned and funded by the CCF (info here) -- they are a huge lobby organization who also campaigns against Mothers Against Drunk Drivers, Centers for Disease Control, the American Federation of Teachers etc etcetera. The CCF receives a huge amount of funding from the alcohol industry, tobacco, food etcetera. This is mainly why they went after MADD.

If people disagree with PETA or any other organization that helps our fellow creatures -- believe me, there a ton of other places to donate and support . PETA's mission was never to be a shelter, btw. So, it's confusing for people to see others saying PETA isn't doing "what they're supposed to"...when PETA has never intended to provide direct care to animals. Their intention/goal for animals has never been defined as a shelter, although they do end up confiscating some of the animals when on the front line of an investigation.

Anyway, always helpful to know as much as you can about any issue, no matter what it is, before passing judgment. Good discussions are made of this kind of stuff though .
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Here is the other perspective of why PETA euthanizes: (warning: may be too GRAPHIC for some)

Why We Euthanize | Ingrid Newkirk Blog | Blog.IngridNewkirk.com


Why We Euthanize, Part II (Warning: Graphic Photo) | peta2 Blog

Then also, it helps to read the Asilomar Accords to see how shelters/organizations decide whether or not to euthanize: Asilomar Accords Home

It's also helpful to know that Peta Kills Animals is owned and funded by the CCF (info here) -- they are a huge lobby organization who also campaigns against Mothers Against Drunk Drivers, Centers for Disease Control, the American Federation of Teachers etc etcetera. The CCF receives a huge amount of funding from the alcohol industry, tobacco, food etcetera. This is mainly why they went after MADD.

If people disagree with PETA or any other organization that helps our fellow creatures -- believe me, there a ton of other places to donate and support . PETA's mission was never to be a shelter, btw. So, it's confusing for people to see others saying PETA isn't doing "what they're supposed to"...when PETA has never intended to provide direct care to animals. Their intention/goal for animals has never been defined as a shelter, although they do end up confiscating some of the animals when on the front line of an investigation.

Anyway, always helpful to know as much as you can about any issue, no matter what it is, before passing judgment. Good discussions are made of this kind of stuff though .
i kinda figured the website was probably just as much of a political crap giant as PETA and HSUS themselves. usually anyone willing to bash another group has some kind of ulterior motives too.

i think the best thing is to support the little guys. the local rescues and shelters. your state chapter humane society. anything that's a little smaller scale. they are really on the front lines doing this day in and day out and their goals are not quite so politically tainted and they usually aren't in it for ANY profit and if there is paid positions they are city or state paid not fundraising money paid.

i know that the intention should be to protect inhumane treatment of animals, but they get lost and caught up in politcal battling and their pensions that they aren't great about sticking to the point behind it of helping innocent creatures have a better more humane treatment.

i'm against unethical farming (large corp farms that massively slaughter and cruelly kill their livestock with no respect to the animal's body or life)

and i'm against hunting just for antlers, and wasting the meat and other parts of the animal or cruely killing your prey through more than ONE clean shot Two if the first shot wasn't a kill shot. I knew people that shot 17 times for the fun of it, that is cruel, unethical hunting, and shouldn't be allowed. There is no reason to shoot an animal more than it takes to provide a clean kill. and if you cannot get a clean kill shot you don't shoot and risk injury to that animal.

and for pets i believe in strong punishments for those that abuse and hurt animals, but i sure don't believe in taking all pets away so they can live a wild and undomesticated life. releasing our yorkies into the wild as HSUS would want would kill them since they just can't survive out there on their own. they were bred to be domestic and domestic is their entire purpose in life.

that's my thoughts and opinions on it, take it or leave it.

support treating animals ethically, but don't support funding politcal giants with no realistic or well structured goals
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I don't particularly like PETA but I also don't think euthanizing is the worst thing in the world. In fact, some times I think it's for the better.

I get sad.... for example when I watch Pit Bulls & Parolees. It's a very touching show. The work Tia does is absolutely incredible, touching, and inspiring. But is it REALLY better for those 175 Pit Bulls who are living in cages potentially for the rest of their lives? Some are deemed unadoptable, and they stay there for life, aka "lifers". Is that REALLY more humane than euthanizing? In some cases, I think not.

I think that as long as an animal is peacefully exiting the world, that is what matters.
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I have never been a fan of peta if I have money to donate I have always chosen the ASPCA.
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While euthanizing animals is a sad thing....what are shelters supposed to do with animals no one wants?

My local shelters are currently filled to capacity and are refusing to take in animals. Who is producing these unwanted dogs? Who isn't spaying/neutering their pets? Who is releasing un-altered pets to run the streets? These are the people I would like to see punished.
What bothers me is peta is all don't kill animals at all for any reason yet they are euthanizing animals which certainly is not practicing what they preach.
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I have never been a fan of peta if I have money to donate I have always chosen the ASPCA.
they are a better run program but even they get it wrong sometimes and spend more money on lobbying and big ticket things than they do actually supporting and helping shelters and rescue efforts. it's the big guys, their hearts were in the right place and then the money came in, they got huge, they got political agendas, they got people who wanted big pensions, and they loose all their original goals and only see $$$
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Thank you, Ann, for letting us know the source of these statistics. Has the accuracy of the numbers themselves been confirmed or denied by PETA?

I have been disillusioned by groups that I thought so much of starting decades ago, it did not surprise me that another group did not live up to what they originally set out to be. Some examples: ACLU, ERA, etc. I hope PETA denies the validity of these numbers, bc the numbers themselves do concern me. We just had horses seized from a farm in PA by the ASPCA. They were in horrendous condition. One was too far gone. Others are attempting to be saved. I am aware some in animal rescue will be too far gone; however, I think it was the large number of euthanization that was shocking.

I have been impressed by the extent some rescues have gone to save animals. I would hope PETA would share the same heart.
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Thank you, Ann, for letting us know the source of these statistics. Has the accuracy of the numbers themselves been confirmed or denied by PETA?

I have been disillusioned by groups that I thought so much of starting decades ago, it did not surprise me that another group did not live up to what they originally set out to be. Some examples: ACLU, ERA, etc. I hope PETA denies the validity of these numbers, bc the numbers themselves do concern me. We just had horses seized from a farm in PA by the ASPCA. They were in horrendous condition. One was too far gone. Others are attempting to be saved. I am aware some in animal rescue will be too far gone; however, I think it was the large number of euthanization that was shocking.

I have been impressed by the extent some rescues have gone to save animals. I would hope PETA would share the same heart.
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Of course, this is "just" another organization, but... the point is...if everyone donated to their local shelters much more could be done. That, and spend time writing to you congressmen and women regarding puppy mills, sales of puppies in pet stores, etc. Just recently not far from me, a puppy mill with over 220 dogs was shut down, for the moment.. The courts have agreed to a new hearing for the people running this horrible place. Lets hope this judge doesn't have his head up his.... and does NOT let these people have the dogs back.
And, just another little funny note on PETA.. How much of those donations were spent on their little ventures like in Turkey, Texas, where they campaigned to change the name of the town to Tofurky, Texas through the Thanksgiving holidays. Really!!?? Needless to say, that didn't fly..lol

Spay and neuter your pets people!
Don't buy from pet stores, puppy mills, greeders, and your basic bad backyard breeder.
Donate your money or time to local groups. JMO
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