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07-22-2014, 09:40 AM | #16 |
Yorkie Talker Join Date: Mar 2010 Location: Silver City, NM United States
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| About collar. I would never use a shock collar. This is a citronella spray collar. It's harmless but dogs don't like the smell. I originally got it for Taz. One spray was all it took. All I have to do is "collar Taz" when she is over-barking, or show her the collar. I've tried it on Lil Bit but battery is too low so it was unsuccessful. I do need to have some control over the barking. |
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07-22-2014, 10:25 AM | #17 |
Yorkie Talker Join Date: Mar 2010 Location: Silver City, NM United States
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| I have just read from several sources about the NILIF program and just tried one for the first time. He wanted to be picked up for a belly rub, he sat still but I didn't respond as the sit is for when he gets food treat. Then he did a bow. I responded to it and used word bow. Bow will be the command he has to do when he wants pets. |
07-22-2014, 10:36 AM | #18 | |
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__________________ Jeanie and Tibbe One must do the best one can. You may get some marks for a very imperfect answer: you will certainly get none for leaving the question alone. C. S. Lewis | |
07-22-2014, 11:02 AM | #19 |
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| Another tip for a high-energy dog is to have them work for their meals. Set the food bowl aside and buy a series of kong toys and divide the meal into them. Ask the dog if he wants his Dinner in A Kong and have him sit, lie down or whatever his required task is that allows him to control himself in order to get his meal and then place his kongs filled with food on the floor and watch him work for up to 45 minutes to get his dinner, having a ball all the while. I've given Tibbe his choice of a bowl of his dinner kibble vs. two kongs filled with it and he ALWAYS chooses the kongs and goes off with one in his mouth or rolling it or hitting to knock in up into the air to cause it to emit the kibble inside and will play and work on it until it's empty and then he gets the other one and goes after it until empty. He just loves to work for his dinner - just the way his ancestors had to generations ago and he seems to be so fulfilled afterward. And it drains energy and feeds them all the while - two jobs in one.
__________________ Jeanie and Tibbe One must do the best one can. You may get some marks for a very imperfect answer: you will certainly get none for leaving the question alone. C. S. Lewis |
07-22-2014, 11:02 AM | #20 |
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| This is perfect, find what he enjoys and play with him. I found Molli loved to play ball with those little squeaky kong balls which helped immensely. Try having your guy in an apartment, lol, wasn't easy. Victoria Stillwell has a lot of great YouTube videos on training positively. It took a few months before my older dog finally felt comfortable playing but one we had the training and energy out more they became fast friends. I still have to play with her separate when she's too hyper but they do love each other and I'm happy I didn't give up.
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07-22-2014, 11:53 AM | #21 | |
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I worried that Tibbe might begin to bark a lot and then go quiet to just get treats but instead, he learned what was appropriate barking and would begin to police himself to bark a bit and then stop on his own as he knew that prolonged barking would usually bring a "quiet" from me. He sensed that I didn't like it, even though I'd treat and praise him for going "quiet" on command. It's amazing how a well-trained dog doesn't usually push your buttons - he begins to learn what behavior you like and what you don't and is pretty happy to keep you happy with him. Plus, a well-trained dog just usually isn't that upset for that long to keep barking on and on - they get bored doing it. Tibbe's too busy doing his thing to stand and bark for long and if he does and it finally gets on my nerves(I think a certain amount of daily barking is healthy and good for them), I "quiet" him, even if it's a cat in the back yard he's been barking at. And he quits instantly and is always pleased with my response of getting up and getting him a treat and a quick smile and genuine praise, which he always gets anytime he willingly stops himself from instinctive barking on my request. The very least I can do is reward that kind of good behavior and encourage his always obeying me.
__________________ Jeanie and Tibbe One must do the best one can. You may get some marks for a very imperfect answer: you will certainly get none for leaving the question alone. C. S. Lewis | |
07-22-2014, 02:59 PM | #22 |
Yorkie Talker Join Date: Mar 2010 Location: Silver City, NM United States
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| Working here on the NILIF. It's hard work especially as I just instinctively reach to pet and such. Also realize that I need to work with both dogs. There are a lot of things they do and have been free to do like getting on couch to sleep or get in my bed when I am in it. How do I handle them? Do I take them down and say anything? That would be punishment to them. The kong is a great idea. It may work for him. Definitely not for Taz, I think this NILIF requires more discipline from me than dogs. But, they say it will become second nature. yorkietalkjilly I allow barking it's just that he gets going and will not stop.. Also it seems like he is demanding I do something, or talking to me with looking at me and barking. This bark is different and almost like he's communicating to me. I will refuse to do what he wants and ignore him. |
07-22-2014, 03:40 PM | #23 | |
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http://www.yorkietalk.com/forums/gen...king-stop.html She still does this more than any dog I've ever met, she barks if her food bowl is empty, if she wants to play, if she wants a bath, but the kicker is normal stuff dogs would bark at, squirrels, mailmen, ect she could care less! She doesn't make a peep! She barks as her communication with us, it's just her way. I have just learned to figure out what she wants and then I say 'ok Molli, quiet' and I give it to her. This usually stops the barking unless she's playing in which case barking is part of the fun. If I figure out how to stop it I'll let you know but so far we just manage it and let Molli be Molli.
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07-22-2014, 04:04 PM | #24 | |
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Just deny the dogs jumping on the couch by instantly saying "uh oh" in a matter-of-fact voice when they spontaneously jump up on their own. Later, show them the secret to getting up on the couch: Ask them to "sit" or "lie down" of whatever you want them to do and once they have done that, pat the couch and say "Jump up!" in an upbeat voice and they will in time learn that you control when and who jumps up onto the couch and each and every time they jump up without stopping to "ask" you(by looking at you or going in circles or putting their paws up on the side of the couch), that you will take them back off immediately and the only entre to the couch is you asking them to perform a command and their doing it. The NILIF program allows you to teach your dog to ask or otherwise delay his impulses until he is allowed to do something and in time, he's right on board with the program, happily showing you have fast he can get his command right so he can get what he wants. Yes!!! Training a dog involves the will and dedication of the dog trainer far more than it does the dog! And furthermore, we have to make them want to train and learn, keep it fun and interesting and re-engage them should their mind wander. That's the secret of dog training! You have to more more determined than the dog! Not for the faint-hearted or dilettante, believe me. Once you get into though and your dog begins to learn, to love working, learns how to control his impulses and do what you ask and enjoys the process so much, your pride in his accomplishments and he changing good behavior begins to grow somewhat addicting and at the very least, fun and interesting. It's not easy but, oh, the rewards of training last a lifetime and make living with a happy, spunky dog who is quick to obey you, almost never disobeys and is a joy to live with it really worth it.
__________________ Jeanie and Tibbe One must do the best one can. You may get some marks for a very imperfect answer: you will certainly get none for leaving the question alone. C. S. Lewis | |
07-22-2014, 04:54 PM | #25 | |
♥ Love My Tibbe! ♥ Donating Member Join Date: Feb 2011 Location: D/FW, Texas
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Here is the corrected post: Oh, believe me, I get it. I'm sure we all allow our dogs to bark to a healthy degree and even more as we're all died-in-the-wool doglovers and hate to deny them anything but it's important we teach them to go "quiet" on command and that they do it so just teach him to bark on command and in time, add the quiet and he'll comply. That barking will get better as you train him and he becomes a calmer, less impulsive dog, trust me. As he becomes older and calmer with trainer and self-restraint, he'll find barking less rewarding than pleasing you is. Just deny the dogs jumping on the couch by instantly saying "uh oh" in a matter-of-fact voice when they spontaneously jump up on their own and instantly remove them from the couch. Later, show them the secret to getting up on the couch: Ask them to "sit" or "lie down" of whatever you want them to do and once they have done that, pat the couch and say "Jump up!" in an upbeat voice and they will in time learn that you control when and who jumps up onto the couch and each and every time they jump up without stopping to "ask" you(by looking at you or going in circles or putting their paws up on the side of the couch), that you will take them back off immediately and the only entre to the couch is you asking them to perform a command and their doing it. The NILIF program allows you to teach your dog to ask or otherwise delay his impulses until he is allowed to do something and in time, he's right on board with the program, happily showing you have fast he can get his command right so he can get what he wants. Yes!!! Training a dog involves the will and dedication of the dog trainer far more than it does the dog! And furthermore, we have to make them want to train and learn, keep it fun and interesting and re-engage them should their mind wander. That's the secret of dog training! You have to more more determined than the dog! Not for the faint-hearted or dilettante, believe me. Once you get into though and your dog begins to learn, to love working, learns how to control his impulses and do what you ask and enjoys the process so much, your pride in his accomplishments and he changing good behavior begins to grow somewhat addicting and at the very least, fun and interesting. It's not easy but, oh, the rewards of training last a lifetime and make living with a happy, spunky dog who is quick to obey you, almost never disobeys and is a joy to live with it really worth it.[/QUOTE] and and that they do it so just teach him to bark on
__________________ Jeanie and Tibbe One must do the best one can. You may get some marks for a very imperfect answer: you will certainly get none for leaving the question alone. C. S. Lewis | |
07-22-2014, 06:14 PM | #26 | |
Senior Yorkie Talker Join Date: Oct 2011 Location: Reading, MA
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Sometimes, after a really horrendous day at work (she can come in with me all day, than God) I think WHY did I do this to myself??? I am too old, I am tired, I just want to sit and do nothing and not have to drive around and walk her. But then, I look at her little face that loves me to death and I say, it is all worth it. These dogs are not easy to deal with but they give SO much in return. Just hang in there, you willl find a way. | |
07-22-2014, 06:16 PM | #27 | |
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Exercise, Exercise, Exercise. My doggie just turned 3 and she is still a freakin lunatic. I mean lunatic. I think she is OCD sometimes. I never had a dog before, never mind a high energy Yorkie and I learned that EXECISE is the best thing. Tire them out - physically and mentally. Beanie LOVES the car and her Beanie Bucket. I got it at PetSmart and it is a bucket that attaches to the passenger side of my car. She sits in it way up high and just looks at the world and everyone that pulls up next to her. When it is really hot here, I put her in the car, put the AC on and just drive and drive. Then I pull over somewhere (preferably near a beach) and walk her for an hour at night. Sometimes, after a really horrendous day at work (she can come in with me all day, thank God) I think WHY did I do this to myself??? I am too old, I am tired, I just want to sit and do nothing and not have to drive around and walk her. But then, I look at her little face that loves me to death and I say, it is all worth it. These dogs are not easy to deal with but they give SO much in return. Just hang in there, you willl find a way. | |
07-23-2014, 04:28 AM | #28 | |
Senior Yorkie Talker Join Date: Jan 2014 Location: Northern Scotland, UK
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07-23-2014, 06:02 AM | #29 |
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| I have to confess, I did not read all of this thread, just throwing in my 2 cents. If there is ever an opportunity for you to take a walk with a friend or someone else that has a dog, go for it. Walking together is the best medicine plus you will feel safer. Carry a walking stick or something to protect you (I carry a tazer and a loud whistle when I am uncertain areas) When at home allow dog to go in it's crate if that is what he needs to do. Let him be who he is. Try to be calm and confident that will help him recover. We are working on the barking issue too not fun. |
07-23-2014, 12:26 PM | #30 |
Senior Yorkie Talker Join Date: Jun 2014 Location: Los Angeles ca usa
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| My vet suggested squirting my dog with a water bottle when he barks. Maybe try that? He is still a puppy so he MIGHT calm down later. |
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