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Old 04-26-2015, 08:56 AM   #25
Yorkiemom1
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As I said.. fed my last little girl Royal Canin for 7 years, until she started throwing it up after eating it. The vet did some tests and she had early stage kidney problems. I'm not saying the kidney problems were from the RC- cuz we really don't know what the cause was. But, in her specific case, the RC was definitely not agreeing with her any longer. So she went to Hill K/D untl that started making her sick and she wouldn't eat it. Then the final years I just made her a Vet nutritionist approved homemade diet for kidneys.

My new puppy is on the Royal Canin puppy mix- and I free feed her that because she is a little nibbler ( just a few kibbles every 15 minutes or so- but not enough at one time to justify only allowing her 15 minutes. But even so-she seems really small and wasn't growing at all. ( She was 1 Lb 3 oz at 7 weeks and was only 1 lb 6 oz when I got her at 11.5 weeks. She stayed that same weight up until 14 weeks. (A week ago) Last friday- I started supplementing with Halo for Puppies and she's gained 2 oz in the last 8 days. She feels like a sturdy little dog now and has a waist without feeling so fragile. So I will keep the mix of both. But I have to admit-I do like the idea of Organic ( for her and me and my husband) And science is great( love that about Royal Canin) but have to admit I DO feel a bit of nervousness to see that term "By product" in a dog food....Even if they say it's the gizzards only rather than the waste other petfood companies use in regards to the term. When it comes to dog food I don't really trust anyone because I know there really aren't many standards and checks and balances out there to keep "corporations" looking for profit and bottom lines " Honest" when it comes to what is best for this little creature I love. When I read a list of ingredients it makes me cringe to hear a statement like "Dogs aren't people- they are dogs with different needs" If that is the case and all these pet food companies are correct in that...why is canine cancer up more than double what it was 40 years ago when most dogs got "Table scraps" rather than scientifically formulated kibbles? In fact why are ALL cancers up in people too for that matter with all the science advances? it's like the more we know...the more we learn we need to know.

Again.. not saying RC is bad...just that I don't think I 100% trust any commercial dog food. That fox guarding the hen house thing I guess. And my common sense tells me some of the ingredients I see used in RC are not "the best" "Gluten" anything makes me squirm. it's just a cheap plan based filler used to boost protein in dog food that would better be filled with actual meat proteins. ALso don't like seeing corn as an ingredient since it is of relatively low nutritional value to a dog. Soy REALLY makes me nervous as it can mess up hormones even in a fixed dog. And cellulose...waste of space in a dog food. No nutritional valise at all to a dog other than perhaps a little " Regularity" with the added fiber.

I may try some of the suggested kibbles that have ingredients I trust more...but like I said. Anything I feed this little girl is going to come with the approval of a nutritionist. It hurts too much to lose one. 12 years was not enough with my last little girl and I want to give Roxie the best chance at seeing 20 that I possibly can. I'm not afraid to spend a little money to get good advice and or on ingredients and a more expensive dog food. The bottom line is I want a happy healthy little fur baby as we all do.

I just thought the list might be of interest to some of the YT members. It was interesting to me at least. and looked like a good place to start. TO be honest the " Dried egg" product that got RC put on the "not recommended" list doesn't bother me so much as some of the ingredients I listed that weren't mentioned. I think eggs are good for little doggies in moderation. There are just so many variables it's hard to figure out what the best route is. I'm just doing the best I can like everyone else.

Thank you so much to all of you who comment. Even if you are playing devils advocate. it makes one stop and think and you DO bring up very valid points.
I appreciate how you feel about what you feed your pup.....we all have preferences in what we consider important in what we feed and even in what we eat. I personally do not critique other dog foods and throw out someones list of what THEY think my dog should be eating, because, as with my own diet, I make my own choices. As far as increases in cancers, I personally think we each have genetic triggers, like allergies, and when we ingest water treated with whatever we personally are sensitive to, or eat from plastic containers that break down and release chemicals that leach into what we then eat, or all the other unknowns we come in contact with everyday, that hit our personal genetic trigger, THAT turns on our individual cancer generator and we develop cancer someplace in our body.

So I concentrated on your statement about your baby living for 20 years. As we all know, all living things have a finite age parameter. Some of us wish we could live forever. We all certainly want our pets to live long healthy lives. The oldest living Yorkie on record is a little Yorkie, Lucy, who is 22 years old, living in Borne, Netherlands. She is in the Guiness Record Book....there is a man and wife in Leeds England, with a Yorkie that they claim is 28 years old. So I went on a hunt for this man and his wife....I am no where the caliber of slueth that some of our members on this forum are....but I did find out the husband has since died, in 2012. I am tryiong to verify what this Yorkie was fed all these years....I received an email from "a friend of the family" , that has told me she thinks that family fed that little dog Royal Canin! Now, I am trying to validate this information....I am trying to get in touch with Kath Aveyard, the wife and owner of little Bonnie, to get it straight from her, that this little dog was fed RC!! Wont this be something if it turns out to be true!!! What a great "positive clinical trial outcome" for RC if that little dog was fed RC!!! (RC is widely and generously used throughout Europe) RC may just be the very thing your little dog needs to keep her around for many, many, many years!

Just thought I would throw this little tidbit into the mix!!

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